Re: training material question

From: Jonny English (redkidneybeans@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Jun 15 2007 - 19:47:19 ART


yeah, you have to pause and restart everytime you go from command line to
slides so the new slide that you are talking about comes up on he screen.

On 6/16/07, Brian McGahan <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
>
> FYI the review mode problem was fixed. If you see that the
> audio and video start to desync email support@internetworkexpert.com
> with the specific recording and time index so we can have the adobe
> engineers look at the files themselves. Increasing the size of your
> flash player cache helps, as does periodically pausing a recording for
> 10 seconds or so and starting it again.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP/Security)
> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Leigh Nash
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 9:02 AM
> To: 'Digital Yemeni'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: training material question
>
> I think the Adobe software made quite an improvement.
> The previous software had a terrible time with fast forward, among other
> things.
> The Adobe audio is much better and the video looks crisp too.
> You can adjust the size of the display if you have a hard time reading
> the
> command line.
>
> The IE Service Provider material is dreamy to watch in this new format.
>
> Leigh
> 16543
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Digital Yemeni
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 7:02 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: training material question
>
> I absolutely agree that Adobe Flash screwed up the contents! Even the
> command line in some of the videos looked horrible .....FYI, this is due
> to
> the message...."You are now in Review Mode. Any choices selected will
> not be
> tracked" :)
>
> The previous software was an excellent in terms of audio that sync
> normally
> with the video frames.
>
>
>
> On 6/15/07, Farrukh Haroon <farrukhharoon@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I personally think IE has an excellent COD for both R/S and Security,
> > but their decision to go with Adobe was a big mistake. There was no
> > sync problem with Audio / Video with their previous software, it even
> > worked fine on Dail-up.
> >
> > Getting rid with Adobe and getting something better would solve all
> this.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Farrukh
> >
> > On 6/15/07, Gary Duncanson <gary.duncanson@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > IE is certainly popular.
> > >
> > > I have IPExpert's workbook at the moment and I think it's a very
> > > good product. I may try a second vendor book later on for variety.
> > >
> > > Groupstudy is very helpful. I don't pay too much attention to
> > > sadikhov
> > as
> > > that place is full of posts about written dumps.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Erich Herzog" <erichherzog@gmail.com>
> > > To: <jslauer@hotmail.com>
> > > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:52 AM
> > > Subject: Re: training material question
> > >
> > >
> > > > Look at the groupstudy prof board, and sadikhov. When people
> > > > volunteer that they have passed, I think all that I have seen have
>
> > > > said they used IE.
> > > Not
> > > > to say other WBs are not good, thats just what the community seems
>
> > > > to
> > be
> > > > saying.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Erich
> > > > On 6/15/07, jslauer@hotmail.com <jslauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I Completely agree,
> > > >>
> > > >> I've been more than satisfied with every product out there (with
> > > >> exception of that one) so I'm onboard with that statement.
> > > >>
> > > >> Josh
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Brian Dennis" <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > >> To: <jslauer@hotmail.com>
> > > >> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:20 PM
> > > >> Subject: RE: training material question
> > > >>
> > > >> Please don't take what I said wrong. What I'm saying is that
> > > >> people should really look into a vendor's "track record" and not
> > > >> get fooled
> > by
> > > >> fancy marketing and/or flashy websites when searching for CCIE
> > > training.
> > > >>
> > > >> Good Luck!
> > > >>
> > > >> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > > >> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > > >>
> > > >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > >> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > >> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: jslauer@hotmail.com [mailto:jslauer@hotmail.com]
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:51 PM
> > > >> To: anthony.sequeira@thomson.com; narbikk@gmail.com; Brian Dennis
> > > >> Cc: broyster9@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >> Subject: Re: training material question
> > > >>
> > > >> I would agree,
> > > >>
> > > >> counting CCIE's on a vendors website is not a very accurate
> metric
> > > >> considering many people use products from multiple vendors and
> give
> > > >> testimonials to multiple vendors. Personally, I used products
> from
> > most
> > > >> of
> > > >> the vendors. I only attended one training class (NetmasterClass)
> and
> > > >> they
> > > >> were the bomb. I had good success with all the products with
> > exception
> > > >> of
> > > >> one vendor who does not even exist anymore.
> > > >>
> > > >> Josh
> > > >> CCIE 16024
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: <anthony.sequeira@thomson.com>
> > > >> To: <narbikk@gmail.com>; <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
> > > >> Cc: <broyster9@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:41 PM
> > > >> Subject: RE: training material question
> > > >>
> > > >> > Counting the peeps on the site is the last thing I would do
> when
> > > >> > choosing a vendor. In fact, I would never bother to do it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > After passing using the materials of several vendors, I would
> > > >> recommend
> > > >> > the following:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 1. Ask for a sample or tour of the product you are considering.
> > > >> Evaluate
> > > >> > the materials carefully.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 2. Explore the Support options that are available with the
> vendor.
> > Do
> > > >> > they have chat, forums, 800 numbers, etc. Are these actually
> > > monitored
> > > >> > by qualified employees of that company?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Something else to consider is using multiple vendors. While
> vendors
> > > >> > certainly do not want to hear that recommendation, most here,
> > > >> including
> > > >> > myself, believe that some vendors excel at certain products
> > compared
> > > >> to
> > > >> > others.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Anthony J. Sequeira
> > > >> > #15626
> > > >> >
> > > >> > P.S. I used products from InternetworkExpert and NetMasterClass
> and
> > > >> both
> > > >> > were excellent. Support was lacking at InternetworkExpert, but
> I
> > > >> believe
> > > >> > they have that solved now.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > Behalf
> > > >> Of
> > > >> > Narbik Kocharians
> > > >> > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:00 PM
> > > >> > To: Brian Dennis
> > > >> > Cc: Brent Royster; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >> > Subject: Re: training material question
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Brian,
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > You have a point, but what you fail to mention is the
> following:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Your statement does NOT reflect the truth; it fails to mention
> the
> > > >> > actual
> > > >> > number of passing students relative to the number of attendees,
> > which
> > > >> I
> > > >> > would surmise to be a low percentage.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > If Vendor-1 has 10 students and 3 pass, Vendor-1 has a passing
> > > >> > percentage of
> > > >> > 30 percent. But if Vendor-2 has 100 students and only 16 pass,
> > > >> > Vendor-2's
> > > >> > ratio is 16 percent, that does not mean that Vendor-2 has a
> better
> > > >> > product,
> > > >> > from Vendor-2's perspective, it has 16 passing students versus
> 3,
> > but
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > truth of the matter is that Vendor-1 has a better percentage
> and
> > > >> > product.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 6/14/07, Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> You can get a good idea as to the number of people that are
> > passing
> > > >> >> using a particular vendor's products and classes by looking
> over
> > > >> their
> > > >> >> CCIE lists and customer feedback. As a side note any vendor
> that
> > > >> > tells
> > > >> >> you it doesn't matter how many people are using their products
> and
> > > >> >> classes to pass the CCIE lab won't have a long list of CCIEs
> on
> > > their
> > > >> >> website ;-)
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> --
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Brian Dennis, CCIE4 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP)
> > > >> >> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > > >> >> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> > > >> >> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> > > >> >> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > Behalf
> > > >> > Of
> > > >> >> Brent Royster
> > > >> >> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 7:06 AM
> > > >> >> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >> >> Subject: training material question
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I am interested in buying one of the class on demand options
> from
> > > >> >> multiple
> > > >> >> vendors. Its mentioned on the websites that these are like
> full
> > > >> >> bootcamps.
> > > >> >> has anyone who passed the lab used this material? If so how
> well
> > > >> > would
> > > >> >> you
> > > >> >> rate it?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> >
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> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Narbik Kocharians
> > > >> > CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > > >> > CCSI# 30832
> > > >> > Network Learning, Inc. (CCIE class Instructor)
> > > >> > www.ccbootcamp.com (CCIE Training)
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