RE: benefit of using Native vlan

From: anthony.sequeira@thomson.com
Date: Wed Jun 13 2007 - 13:46:57 ART


For a couple of examples on why the Native VLAN can be dangerous, check
out the Double-Encapsulated 802.1Q/Nested VLAN Attack section of the
following document:

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/switches/ps708/products_white_pap
er09186a008013159f.shtml

As far as setting the Native VLAN to an Inactive VLAN, I have not
verified, but I assume this effectively eliminates the Native VLAN
behavior. All traffic sent across the link will be tagged.

Some of Cisco's other security recommendations in this area include
creating a Management traffic VLAN other than VLAN 1, and placing all
ports in your network that you will not use into a VLAN other than VLAN
1.

So you notice - we really pick on the default VLAN of VLAN 1. It was the
default Native VLAN, and we eliminate that. We also remove ALL ports
from this VLAN.

Anthony J Sequeira
#15626

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From: Irfan Siddiqui [mailto:Irfan.Siddiqui@vanco.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 12:33 PM
To: Sequeira, Anthony (NETg); ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: benefit of using Native vlan

You mention there are security issues in configuring a native vlan, what
are these??

Also if you configure a native vlan that doesn't actually exist in the
vlan database.. how does that work... does that mean untagged and
management taffic will just flow over a phantom vlan that doesn't
exist....

Please explain....

Would appreciate......

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-----Original Message-----
From: anthony.sequeira@thomson.com [mailto:anthony.sequeira@thomson.com]

Sent: 13 June 2007 17:19
To: Irfan Siddiqui; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: benefit of using Native vlan

I believe the concept of the Native VLAN originally arose as a safety
mechanism for Management traffic. For example, if a trunk link loses its
trunk status, the link can still pass the Management traffic as it is
not tagged.

Because there are security issues that the Native VLAN can introduce,
Cisco currently recommends that in high security environments, the
Native VLAN be set to an Inactive VLAN. In other words, set it to a VLAN
that does NOT exist in your topology. The trunk link will still work
just fine, and when you check the trunk status it will show that the
Native VLAN is Inactive.

Keep in mind that in the Certification Lab, we need to do whatever they
instruct us to do. As many have pointed out here before, the Lab Exam is
not a Best Practice type of test. If in the lab, they never mention
Native VLAN at all, explicitly or implicitly, then I would just leave it
alone (default settings).

Anthony J Sequeira
#15626

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Irfan Siddiqui
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:13 AM
To: Cisco certification
Subject: benefit of using Native vlan

Wonder if someone can advise...

What is the benefit of using a native vlan on a trunk. If you don't
define a native vlan on a trunk, I believe it uses vlan 1 as the native
vlan to pass the untag management traffic..

If you do define a native vlan, it will use that vlan to pass all the
untagged traffic... and you need to match it on both ends...

Also I believe there is a command to the effect that you can configure
native vlan to send tagged traffic as well.. dot1q tag native or
something....

But what is the benefit of configuring a native vlan vs . not
configuring one at all..

Does it have any other benefit, besides specifying what vlan to send
untagged traffic ?

Please help. Thanks in advance..

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