From: Sean C (upp_and_upp@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 11 2007 - 10:19:53 ART
I ran out of gas. I..., I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for
cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in
from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible
flood. Locusts. IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD.
----- Original Message -----
From: <jslauer@hotmail.com>
To: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>; "'Paul Dardinski'"
<pauld@marshallcomm.com>; "'Yinglam Cheung'" <ccie6961@yahoo.com>; "'Jinhong
Im'" <jhim@kornet.net>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
> Maybe that's that new CCIE lab I've been hearing about...If you screw up
> they beat you over the head with a stick. Or that other CCIE lab where
> they wait until they turn your back and jack everything up. This is bogus,
> proctors don't give a damn about your configs until after your finished
> and even then I'm sure there is some type of audit process they follow to
> ensure the integrity of the exam. Seems as though what's happening here is
> an individual is upset that he/she didn't pass and is challenging the
> integrity of both the exam and the proctors...nice!
>
> Josh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Morris" <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> To: "'Paul Dardinski'" <pauld@marshallcomm.com>; "'Yinglam Cheung'"
> <ccie6961@yahoo.com>; "'Jinhong Im'" <jhim@kornet.net>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:01 PM
> Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
>
>> Like most of the troubleshooting within the lab, it may have fallen under
>> the category of "self-induced".
>>
>>
>> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
>> #153, CISSP, et al.
>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
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>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Paul
>> Dardinski
>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:27 AM
>> To: Yinglam Cheung; Jinhong Im
>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: Attack by Proctor
>>
>> Hrmm.....don't remember a proctor even having the slightest interest in
>> my
>> configs during any lab attempt....
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> Yinglam Cheung
>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:12 AM
>> To: Jinhong Im
>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: Attack by Proctor
>>
>> I seldom wrote to the group, but the subject line caught me to take a
>> look.
>>
>> It would be interesting to know why proctor would get on your router to
>> check your configurations. AFAIK, proctors don't check candidates'
>> configs during the testing time. Did you suspect a bug and ask him to
>> check?
>> I'd have asked proctor why he erased some configs if I were you.
>>
>> In any case you can write to ccie@cisco.com or Cisco Certification
>> Support
>> and I believe you can fill out feedbacks after finishing your lab.
>>
>> Overall I feel proctors in my CCIE lab experience are very professional.
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> Yinglam
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Jinhong Im <jhim@kornet.net>
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2007 4:58:38 AM
>> Subject: Attack by Proctor
>>
>>
>> Hi GS,
>>
>> Today I took my 4th R&S test.
>> After I checked all my configuration I found the proctor had changed too
>> many things, left about 20 minutes.
>> I really astonished because of too severe attacks by the proctor. He blew
>> out the whole BGP configuration on a switch and so many other
>> configurations
>> I made. I tried to recover all them, but I couldn't have time to check it
>> again because the proctor was counting time. So I am not sure it all the
>> configurations were correct, and finally I found one missing
>> configuration
>> and I couldn't be able to complete it because He was saying time was
>> over.
>>
>> I think it is too severe attack to cope.
>> I would like to know if there is a way to let Cisco know that there will
>> be
>> few candidates to protect themselves from the attack.
>>
>> Any opinion?
>>
>> Regards
>> /JH
>>
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