From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Wed May 30 2007 - 21:49:38 ART
I think if Cisco gave us simply an hour to come back the next day, we'd all
solve the issues. Remember that as soon as you exit the building, all brain
cells re-enter the world of the living and functional. I think it's some
sort of dampening field around all of the CCIE lab centers.
It's not a competition for the hardest labs (evil just comes easy!), but
it's a matter of creating "harder than the real thing" scenarios emphasizing
all of the important mental points. If you get to the real lab, and it
seems to be harder than what you have been practicing, then (IMHO) you
aren't practicing enough!
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
smorris@ipexpert.com
http://www.ipexpert.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Narbik Kocharians
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:18 PM
To: Michael Zuo
Cc: Eric Dobyns; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: [SPAM?] Test Tomorrow
Guys,
It's the prep work that gives you the knowledge; it's not the
lab or the number that they give you. I bet most of the students that take
the exam realize that the actual exam was easier than what they expected.
The problem that I see these days is that people don't do the right thing to
prepare for the exam and/or they all focus on 007 style configurations. It
seems like there is a competition between some of the vendors offering CCIE
program as to who can produce the hardest labs.
I honestly do not think that most of the test is based on 007 style
configurations, some of the question (May be 5 percent) may require some 007
style configuration but the rest of the test is based on your understanding
of the protocols. Therefore, if you do not understand the basics and/or you
did not cover 90 95 percent of what each protocol has to offer in your
prep time, you will become a donor. SIMPE AS THAT
My philosophy about the test is that you need to know 90 to 95 percent of
the commands and know where and how they should be used and what their
behaviors in certain condition are. I do not think that the can be achieved
by doing 65 mock labs, you need to dive in each protocol separately and
explore all possible options.
Once you are able to do that, you are ready to take the exam. Once you are
ready to take the exam, you need to focus on your organizational skills,
speed (I don't mean how fast you type, it has nothing to do with CCIE and
this is not a receptionist test) and understanding the questions.
If Cisco gave us 2 days to configure and test the actual test, I think we
would all be CCIEs.
As far as comparing CCIE to any other vendor cert, I think CCIE is the best
and the most respected cert in the world today and I hope they keep it that
way so we can all have a goal when it comes to IT.
Please understand that i am not advertising for my boot camps, i am simply
answering your questions.
On 5/30/07, Michael Zuo <mzuo@ixiacom.com> wrote:
>
> Just need half pack of cigarettes and wear a pair of sunglasses ;)
>
>
> Michael Zuo
> CCIE #17800
> CCIE notes for sale :)
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=STRK%3
> AM
> ESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130117763671&rd=1&rd=1
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Eric Dobyns
> Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 8:55 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: [SPAM?] Test Tomorrow
> Importance: Low
>
> Well, my test is tomorrow. I've gone through Jedi Supreme Master
> Narbik's stuff backwards, forwards and sideways and have familiarized
> myself with
> Universecd. I have also plotted my route to the test site and have a
> full
> tank of gas. Any other suggestions?
>
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-- Narbik Kocharians CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) CCSI# 30832 Network Learning, Inc. (CCIE class Instructor) www.ccbootcamp.com (CCIE Training)
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