From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu May 17 2007 - 02:34:19 ART
Actually,
Since our friend is a reseller...
Have the client start looking at their CPU
utlilization on their network...
When they see 40-50% or so...
Shake your head and start upselling the 6500 as the
king of the Cisco Forest...
Who cares if their current Switches are only 1924's or
2924's...
It is the dawn of a new era and although a 4500
"might" do the job... the 6500 is the latest and
greatest from Cisco and as such it gets the most
attention... from TAC... and R&D...
What I'm saying is:
Many companies and their "guru" CEO / CIO / CFO has no
idea what this stuff does, may or may not care to
learn and may have a comfy budget to spend...
Most figure they won't fall under scrutiny for buying
Cisco and hell when at it, why not buy the best of the
breed.
Think I'm lying...
Visit an Elementary School or so near you...
E-Rate Rules... and Cisco SE's love eduation...
How many 6000/6500's can you sell a school district
with at best 150 teachers/staff and a 300-400 K-6
students...
Think it has not been done...
You don't live in Florida...
We have the Sunshine Law - See for yourself.
The rule of sales is survival of the fittest.
Cisco SE's take a lot of time to approach, study, and
learn their vict... clients well... "very well"...
There "IS" a sense to this madness... $$$
And Education is not the only vertical that gets
plucked...
So...
Whatever the ego and budget of your client will allow.
--- Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com> wrote:
> Each of the switches have ratings as far as total
> throughput/processing on
> the backplane (including across the stack). If pure
> traffic is your
> consideration, then it really comes down to
> purchasing the fastest switch
> and SUP module that you can possibly afford! :)
>
> But since many places work within budgets it really
> becomes a game of what
> you need, what you'd like, what you plan on needing
> and what you can afford.
>
> Start with your business. What do you need? Do you
> need a switch with good
> throughput with hundreds of ports and a FlexWAN
> module and Firewall Services
> module built in to one box? Or can you break that
> into three 3750's stacked
> plus a 3825 router plus an ASA 5510? *shrug*
> Evaluate your needs. Find a
> box or boxes that fit those needs.
>
> The variety of interfaces (LAN/WAN) may lead you to
> the 6500. Needing a
> 10gig ethernet port may lead you to the 6500.
> Depends on what your needs
> are!
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> smorris@ipexpert.com
> http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>
> _____
>
> From: sirus MOGHADASIAN [mailto:cyrus.mgh@gmail.com]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:53 PM
> To: smorris@ipexpert.com; Darby Weaver
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: why use 6500 switch?
>
>
> That's actually where the problems raise!!
>
> I mean what sort of tasks that 4500 and 6500 series
> can perform that bunch
> of 3750 and some routers cannot do?
>
> when should an organization migrate to 6500 or 4500?
> needing which services
> lead an organization to leave its devices and buy
> 6500 or 4500?
>
> Is there any definite traffic criteria that leads to
> buy these ? (these to
> line of switches offer high packet per second rate
> in hardware)
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> On 5/17/07, Scott Morris <smorris@ipexpert.com>
> wrote:
>
> If you ask a Cisco sales person, you should ALWAYS
> buy a 6500. :)
>
> Honestly though, there's a very robust product line.
> Look at what features
> you NEED for your design and go from there. Look at
> things you would LIKE
> for the future, and that may help as well.
>
> Don't forget that the 4500 is also a modular chassis
> with good options and
> port density. Just not quite as broad (nor as
> expensive) as the 6500.
>
> If you are just looking for plain-old ethernet
> ports, I'd start looking at
> stacking the smaller devices (3750).
>
> Buy what you can afford, what solves your needs, and
> what makes your life
> easier in the long run. Or, buy whatever you can
> squeeze past the
> accountants!
>
> ;)
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> smorris@ipexpert.com
> http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:
> nobody@groupstudy.com
> <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] On Behalf Of
> sirus MOGHADASIAN
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:22 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: why use 6500 switch?
>
> Hi group,
>
> I have question that fills my mind for a while.
>
> when should I offer to buy 6500 for a project?
>
> according to cisco Core,distributed and access layer
> model ,we have not a
> place for extra high density port switch like 6500,
>
> according to that thus we should use 6500 for other
> purposes? like its
> specific cards?
>
>
> thanks
>
> Sirus MGH
>
>
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