From: Gobind (gobind@inbox.com)
Date: Tue May 08 2007 - 12:08:24 ART
Well Scott,I was just trying to tell my experience and when JP said that it is not one-on-one and then Tony said that maybe Cyscoexpert's way of teaching etc..would be changed now,as per Tony's line :-
"they might have changed their approach now and it might benefit newcomers"
As I was newcomer over at Cyscoexpert I was just wanted to let them know how was I treated and how they gave me training and what was the class size,so that THEY can compare,for instance maybe at J.P.'s time (when he got training) there would have been 5-6 students in class and he was not getting any attention or something but I just wanted to share my experience and if it is wrong to do that and if you think the reason I said things is marketing approach and I am perogative then I am sorry about that Scott and would stop reply to this thread :)
Gobind
> -----Original Message-----
> From: smorris@ipexpert.com
> Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:50:17 -0400
> To: gobind@inbox.com, anthonybonilla.ccie@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: Awesome Bootcamp
>
> Not to belabor the obvious, but if IE (if both Brian's taught
> simultaneously) had a class consisting of only two people, wouldn't that
> be
> one-on-one training? Or if I had a class of one person, that would be as
> well...
>
> While it may sound nice, the question is whether or not it's a consistent
> scalable (marketable) approach. IMHO, it's not, it's simply a benefit
> achieved due to the small class size.
>
> Granted, an instructor could just as easily ignore any students and not
> give
> attentions like that, but that wouldn't be nice. :)
>
> Not to take anything away from how valuable your experience was to you,
> but
> you keep pointing it out where it's beginning to sound like a marketing
> approach. If it is, that's certainly your perogative, but others were
> pointing out that their experiences weren't the same, there's no need to
> reiterate yours.
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Gobind
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:22 AM
> To: Anthony Bonilla
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Awesome Bootcamp
>
> Thanks for stepping forward and sharing your views Tony,I completely
> agree
> with you,as far as I know JP got training 4 YEARS ago,and maybe now their
> approach and way of teaching has changed,there are also some students who
> took training from them and step forward to give reviews and also
> students
> who were not satisfied,maybe their approach is different now,well JP can
> u
> tell me why you said that their training is not one-on-one,well in my
> case
> as i said before there were two students(one security guy and was me) and
> I
> got training exclusively from Bahram whole week,isnt this known as
> one-on-one? or I dont know what is one-on-one [IMAGE],hehe
>
> Gobind
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: anthonybonilla.ccie@gmail.com
>> Sent: Tue, 8 May 2007 08:34:19 -0500
>> To: gobind@inbox.com
>> Subject: Re: Awesome Bootcamp
>>
>> All,
>>
>> First of all, as someone already mentioned, everyone's experience is
>> different. I was at Cyscoexpert as well for a week and heard a lot of
>> good things about them but in my opinion, it was okay at best. I did
>> not
> find
>> them that helpful and did not think that any of their training
> benefited
>> me
>> in any way for my lab attempt but they might have changed their
> approach
>> now
>> and it might benefit newcomers but for me, it was not a good
> experience.
>> Again, pls don't take it as an attack on anyone but this is my
>> personal experience and I wanted to share with the group because we
>> are
> discussing
>> this topic. Thanks.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On 5/6/07, Gobind <gobind@inbox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Guys,
>>>
>>> I just took a bootcamp at Cysco Expert,Illinois.Their really really
>>> tough and was one-on-one training and it really helped me out in
>>> knowing my weaknesses.They monitor your session and see how what you
>>> are solving questions and evaluate your answer line by line and tell
>>> what is wrong or a better solution to accomplish a task,at first
>>> their labs really
> threw
>>> me off,must say the training worth the money I paid,the instrcutors
> are
>>> double CCIE and one of the instructor is Co-Author of Cisco Press
>>> book "CCIE Official Exam study guide"....."Naren Mehta"....the person
>>> were really nice and make one laugh with their jokes,esp. the other
>>> CCIE instructor "Bahram Chaboki"......Just though I shoukd share my
>>> experience with them and I havent seen any post about the BootCamp
>>> given by them,I actually came to kno about them a long while ago on
>>> the article by Scott Morris "So you want to be CCIE,Part 2" ,also one
>>> of my friend
>>> recommended:-
>>>
>>> http://tcpmag.c om/features/article.asp?EditorialsID=91
>>>
>>> Well ,Countdown is still on....8 days left for my First
>>> attempt....(It really freaks me out when Icountdown....lol)
>>>
>>> Gobind
>>>
>>>
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