From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Apr 27 2007 - 15:04:00 ART
At your service...
The truth is every time I schedule time to do full
labs, even when done at some expense, I still have
work priorities and emergencies that seem to come
up...
Inherent job related risks...
If it were not for my vacations (training camps) and
some training here and there over the past two years,
I'd be majorly nervous about sitting full labs.
Thankfully, I do spend time "understanding" each
aspect of each piece or layer of the technology in
order to be prepared to ask the proper questions or at
least consider them.
And I still get things mixed if I'm really busy tring
to do something at work in between.
As bad as I "want" the CCIE, for me it has always been
more of a "want" than an absolute "need". Not quite
what I like to admit, but that is the truth of it.
Good Luck!
I've been trying to understand and answer questions as
they are presented either on-list, off-list, personal
or on other forums and whenever possible and
convenient I've been trying to lab them up, even whenI
might think I already know the outcome.
So if something is eating you, please present it.
Thanks,
Darby
--- Gobind <gobind@inbox.com> wrote:
> Darby,
>
> Sorry for the late reply,I was kind of busy,Thanks a
> lot for your tips,I am glad that I asked for your
> book ;),must say your tips and all other emails
> regarding Lab Strategy are awesome,surely you would
> pass this time ;),Well this is my first attempt and
> it really freaks me out when I hear other guys
> talking and telling that they failed 3,4,5 or maybe
> more times in this lab! Well seems like its really a
> HUGE ,monster which one has to defeat :P lol.
>
> Best of luck for your Lab.
>
> Gobind
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: darbyweaver@yahoo.com
> > Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
> > To: gobind@inbox.com, smorris@ipexpert.com,
> shukla_cisco@yahoo.co.in,
> > ccielab@groupstudy.com,
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com,
> > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> > Subject: Re: Advise Needed,20 days left for
> Lab....
> >
> > Gobind,
> >
> > A few tips I am using for my last minute cheat
> sheet
> > (about 100 pages more or less). I made this list
> > based on things I seem to always do wrong all the
> time
> > - at least I have been consistent - I did improve
> but
> > it took me a while:
> > ==========================================
> >
> > 1. Diagrams - I take my time to draw diagrams and
> > verify my workbook matches my lab's router
> configs.
> > This includes subnets, network addresses,
> broadcast
> > addresses, and a list of ranges in use. I also
> note
> > my loops that may not be normal. I do make a
> careful
> > switch diagram too. As I log into my routers, I
> turn
> > on CDP and I turn up my ethernet interfaces. I'm
> > careful not to do this with my serial interfaces.
> >
> > BTW - If there is a troubleshooting section - I
> > probably got my points by the time I finish.
> >
> > 2. Frame Relay - I read ahead to verify if what
> > interface types may be needed for the tasks
> required.
> > I use all my show commands and a couple of debugs
> as
> > required. I shut the interfaces if they are not
> > already and then turn on encapsulation. If I have
> > PPPoFR then I am careful to create the
> > virtual-template first. I also turn on CDP for my
> > serial interfaces. I do frame maps for each
> router's
> > interface unless told not to.
> >
> > 3. Switching - I follow a careful order of
> operations
> > procedure and I verify as I go on a per switch
> basis
> > using CDP. I configure my vtp first, then create
> > vlans and name them as required. I assign vlans
> at
> > that point. I configure trunks where needed.
> When I
> > am ready to configure etherchannel, I use
> interface
> > range and shut the interfaces first. I configure
> them
> > in this mode as I configure the channel-group.
> Then I
> > turn up the interfaces. From there, I configure
> the
> > Port-channel interface as required. I do take the
> > time to verify each move one at a time - I'm in a
> > hurry to be quick but I am taking my time so as
> not to
> > be in a rush. I usually am not concerned with
> > tweaking at this point. I usually am not
> concerned
> > with security features at this point either. I
> will
> > configure inter-vlan routing and bridging if
> requrired
> > at around this time.
> >
> > 4. I move to the IGPs - I am concerned about the
> > backbones and I want to ensure they are configured
> and
> > communicating properly. Don't laugh at me, but if
> I
> > cannot get it right for whateve reason (has
> happened
> > in the past), I stop and try each method in
> careful
> > sequence while debugging to verify where my fault
> > lies. Sometimes debugging alone with help me see
> the
> > problem ASAP - well most times. I configure each
> > protocol by itself and I fixate on a BB and work
> on
> > that IGP first and then each BB in succession.
> Then I
> > take out the core whether it is frame or if it is
> > switch. Then everything else. I am extremely
> careful
> > to ensure per-link and per-IGP connectivity if I
> have
> > not done so previously.
> >
> > 5. I handle whatever redistribution problem I may
> be
> > confronted with. You know when I drew my diagram
> that
> > the first thing I looked for was physical and
> logical
> > loops and when I read the lab booklet, I was
> looking
> > for these types of issues. Anyway, Redistribution
> is
> > not the problem for me it once was. So I can
> usually
> > make quick work of it and unravel any loops fairly
> > quickly. Let's see - higher AD to Lower AD,
> distance
> > is a kewl tool, and I love my route-maps.
> >
> > 6. IPv6 - Should it be present. I deal with it.
> My
> > eyes are carefully looking for frame problems and
> for
> > tunnel issues. These were sore points in the
> past.
> > They are opportunities now for easy points.
> > Otherwise, this is more like IPv4. I am keen to
> > summarization taskings as well. So if I get any,
> I'm
> > ok and comfortable with it.
> >
> > 7. BGP - I quickly refer to my hand-drawn BGP map
> and
> > quickly double-check what I wrote earlier. I
> > immediately start to configure all AS's, of course
> I
> > look for whether I am dealing with iBGP or eBGP,
> > router reflectors or confederations or even if I
> might
> > have the opportunity to use Peer-Groups. I
> advertise
> > whatever networks might be required. I commence
> to
> > filter whatever should be filtered and summarize
> > whatever needs summarization, or suppress whatever
> > does not. I may be called to modify values or
> even
> > prepend - in any event; I think about these
> things. I
> > have my prefix-lists close and ready to use if I
> > should see a need. In some practice labs one
> might
> > have been asked to mock a sh ip bgp table and I am
> > fairly well equipped on knowing which knob to turn
> to
> > produce the desired effect. I know how to use
> null
> > routes and I know to ask if it may be necessary.
> > Backdoors used to get me, I'm over it.
> >
> > 8. Multicast is always fun and I know of a myriad
> > potential problems and solutions and thankfully
> this
> > topic has be covered and re-covered for quite some
> > time now. When to use a tunnel, an no ip nbma
> > statement on a hub, or when to use ip mroute to
> make a
> > point. I had a problem early on understanding how
> to
> > troubleshoot multicast effectively. Now I think I
> got
> > it a whole lot better and IGMP is my friend. I
> can
> > read an OILIST and know how to backtrack an RPF
> table.
> > And lastly I do love to debug, although it is
> > unlikely it would be my last tool.
> >
> > 9. IP Services have always been my friends.
> >
> > 10. Security and I go way back, I must admit I did
> > have to learn the order of operations for
> keystrings
> > and such. I also had a bit of dificulty ensuring
> my
> > control-plane traffic went where I wanted it to go
> > sometimes.
> >
> > 11. QoS - Used to be my nemesis. Now it is a
> fairly
> > benign creature and I look forward to it being
> another
> > fine opportunity to show how much I've learned
> over
> > the last 6 months or so (about 7 by the time I
> take
> > the lab). NBAR is in my court, DE-List, Queueing,
> > FRTS, and even CAR. Lost of tools I did not have
> time
> > for a while back and I have learned to respect a
> > question I asked Bob Sinclair at NMC-1 about 16
> months
> > or so ago - about how useful was the piece on QoS
> and
> > Cat QoS - and he said no one had complained yet...
> > and still I lingered on the subject till about 4-5
> > months ago when I decided to get this "fear"
> behind
> > me. I read every question with renewed vigor
> trying
> > to ensure I uderstand what was asked and what was
> sad
> > on the list. I can do mostly anything with QoS
> now
> > and am rather happy it should appear on my lab.
> Again
> > another cool opportunity to get some easy points.
> > Although, I still respect vague wording and the
> power
> > of interpretation.
> >
> > 12. If I should finish early - slow typist that I
> am,
> > then I expect that I will go over my lab again as
> many
> > times as possible and I will be looking for things
> I
> > did and ensuring my easy points are not
> over-looked
> > and I know this happens - I've done it and I have
> read
> > about others who did it. This is expected.
> >
> > 13. I am going on this trip fully prepared to be
> > humble and to ask questions on anything that is
> > remotely questionable - as Bruce and Brian have
> said -
> > MAKE NO ASSUMPTIONS.
> >
> > 14. My trip to H-U in Denver taugh me the concept
> of
> > making a good FIRST impression and I intend to use
> > this concept and use it early. If there is any
> > advantage, I want it to be mine.
> >
> >
> > Oh yes - And I do not care if I have to get a
> > subscription for sleep pills - I am going to sleep
> if
> > it kills me the night before my lab. :)
> >
> >
> > Sorry for the book - but Mr. Gobind asked. Ouch!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Gobind <gobind@inbox.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Guys,
> >>
> >> My Lab is approaching and just need your advise.I
> >> did my prepartion in this order starting from
> last
> >> March(In order how I started):-
> >>
> >> -- Internetwork Expert Audio Class
> >>
> >> -- Internetwork Expert Advance Technologies Class
> >>
> >> -- Internetwork Expert Advance Technologies Labs
> >>
> >> -- Internetwork Expert Lab Workbook
> >>
> >> -- Internetwork Expert Core Lab Workbook
> >>
> >> I have done both v3 and v4 of IEWB and also new
> >> version of Advance Technologies Labs,have done
> v3
> >> IEWB 2 times,v4 IEWB 3 times and Core Lab Work
> Book
> >> 2 times.I have read the following books Cover to
> >> Cover for prepartion:-
> >>
> >> -- Internetworking with TCP/IP, Vol 1
> >>
> >> -- Interconnections: Bridges, Routers, Switches,
> and
> >> Internetworking Protocols (2nd Edition)
> >>
> >> -- Routing TCP/IP Volume I (CCIE Professional
> >> Development)
> >>
> >> -- Routing TCP/IP, Volume II (CCIE Professional
> >> Development)
> >>
> >>
> >> -- Cisco LAN Switching (CCIE Professional
> >> Development series) (The Cisco Press Ccie
> >> Professional Development Series)
> >>
> >>
> >> -- Cisco QOS Exam Certification Guide (IP
> Telephony
> >> Self-Study) (2nd Edition)
> >>
> >> -- Cisco Self-Study: Implementing Cisco IPv6
> >> Networks (IPV6)
> >>
> >> I also have refered these two books as
> reference:-
> >>
> >>
> >> -- Developing IP Multicast Networks: The
> Definitive
> >> Guide to Designing and Deploying CISCO IP Multi-
> >> cast Networks
> >>
> >>
> >> -- IPv6 : Theory, Protocol, and Practice, 2nd
> >> Edition (Morgan Kaufmann Series in Networking)
> >>
> >> I followed the article written by Brian Dennis
> "How
> >> to Pass CCIE?" at
> >>
> >
>
"http://www.internetworkexpert.com/resources/ccielab.htm".It
> >> really helped me.Theie products are really
> >> awesome.For reference of commands, I mainly use
> to
> >> DocCd,it has really huge resource so that I could
> >> get familiar with the locations of reource as the
> >> serach function is disbled in Lab. For I the time
> >> mangement I usually check my time while doing IE
> >> Labs and I am able to finish IE labs from 5 to
> 5.5
> >> hrs per Lab..I am reading emails form GS from
> past 1
> >> year which had really helped me.I feel
> comfortable
> >> with the tehchnologies.
> >>
> >> Am I missing something for my
> preparation?.Waiting
> >> for your input.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Gobind
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: smorris@ipexpert.com
> >>> Sent: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:06:26 -0400
> >>> To: shukla_cisco@yahoo.co.in,
> >> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: RE: StarWars-Episode-II- 2nd Attempt
> >>>
> >>> May 18 is a good day! (My original pass date!)
> >>>
> >>> In any event... My advise: don't try anything
> >> new at things point.
> >>> Work
> >>> through some nice, detailed labs you have done
> >> before, but concentrate on
> >>> different things such as the DocCD and overall
> >> process for how to get
> >>> through things faster and how to VERIFY every
> >> single step of what you are
> >>> doing.
> >>>
> >>> The DocCD will help fill in blanks if they come
> up
> >> with anything
> >>> surprising
> >>> to you, otherwise, work on things to retain
> rather
> >> than trying to cram a
> >>> bunch of new stuff in.
> >>>
> >>> HTH, and best of luck!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Scott Morris, CCIE4
> (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> >> Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> >>> #153, CISSP, et al.
> >>> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> >>> IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
> >>> IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> >>> smorris@ipexpert.com
> >>> http://www.ipexpert.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> >> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >>> Prashant Shukla
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:43 PM
> >>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >>> Subject: StarWars-Episode-II- 2nd Attempt
> >>>
> >>> Gurus,
> >>>
> >>> Im writing after a gap of weeks, i gave my first
> >> attempt on 24th Feb ,
> >>> but
> >>> couldn't clear it.
> >>> The best part was though i screwed through
> "stupid
> >> mistakes" , i wasn't
> >>> caught unaware of any of the questions.
> >>>
> >>> Im going for my round-2 ( ting-ting) on 18th
> May,
> >> would need definitely
> >>> any
> >>> inputs/advices for how to nail it.
> >>>
> >>> I have been revising my stuff, mistakes i made.
> >>>
> >>> I have few weeks left, don't want to try new
> >> things or new stuff OR
> >>> should I
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> Thanx a bunch in advance.
> >>>
> >>> Prashant Shukla.
> >>> NCE,Cisco Systems Inc.
> >>> Bangalore,India.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------
> >>> SHOUT IT OUT! Tell everyone, from anywhere,
> that
> >> you're online on Yahoo!
> >>> Messenger
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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