From: CCIE 19999 (ccie@iprimus.com.au)
Date: Tue Apr 24 2007 - 23:54:01 ART
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boddingtons
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Thornton
Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:38 PM
To: Leigh Harrison
Cc: Tony Schaffran; jslauer@hotmail.com; Darby Weaver; Michael Zuo;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: OT: CCIE salary surveys
Boddington? Not familiar with that one...
On 4/24/07, Leigh Harrison <ccileigh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You guys are getting done!!
>
> Come and work in London $150k+ all the bits and bobs:-
>
>
http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/JobSearch/JobDetails.aspx?JobId=29392149&Keywords=cc
ie
>
> AND!! There's all the fish and chips you can eat and all the Boddingtons
> you can drink!!
>
> LH
> #15331
>
> Tony Schaffran wrote:
> > Yes. Not a very high demand for CCIE's in the North Dakota area. You
> would
> > be lucky to fetch $60K
> >
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Network Analyst
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >
> > www.cconlinelabs.com
> > Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > jslauer@hotmail.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 3:13 AM
> > To: Darby Weaver; Michael Zuo; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: OT: CCIE salary surveys
> >
> > your hypothesis is correct in the D.C. area, but that's if you have a
> > high-level security clearance and are willing to work for a contractor.
> If
> > you want something stable, then you wont make as much.
> >
> > Remember, the places where the salaries are high like this have a very
> high
> > cost of living.
> >
> > Josh
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Michael Zuo" <mzuo@ixiacom.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 1:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: OT: CCIE salary surveys
> >
> >
> >> Salary's vary.
> >>
> >> I've had friends in the Cali area making in the 60k+
> >> for the CCNA to CCNP level.
> >>
> >> I've had class-mates claiming up to 110k incomes at
> >> the CCNP level - of course they were earning their
> >> CCIE and were fast-tracking.
> >>
> >> So 120-130k is not unnatural, but I would venture that
> >> seasoned CCIE's are doing better in California.
> >>
> >> However, I had several counterparts at NBC and GE and
> >> I do not recall them saying (or the job postings)
> >> looking like they paid a lot more than my Southeastern
> >> wages for the same or similar job description.
> >>
> >> Same for my counterparts at 30 Rock in New York - it
> >> seems that around 90k or so was the base starting
> >> point, followed with nice raises and bonuses.
> >>
> >> Now maybe for the highest level positions but who is
> >> counting.
> >>
> >> I'm in Orlando and if one does not mind the travel the
> >> ranges I am routinely offered are in the 80-120k range
> >> +/- some form of bonus paackage for the CCNP level
> >> with experience. For the record, I have been asked to
> >> consider greater than 120k - so this is not out of the
> >> question either even for a CCNP - I'm sure the
> >> position would have easily preferred a CCIE.
> >>
> >> The travel and near-CCIE level positions are in the
> >> 110-120k + bonus range here in my neck of the woods,
> >> but for all I know the rates can get better for full
> >> CCIE's. - I would expect it, some of my current peers
> >> speak of 135k+ rates, but I have not seen this yet
> >> myself - but I am not yet a CCIE either.
> >>
> >> I've heard people in the Washington and New York areas
> >> are well paid for their services.
> >>
> >> I've heard that 200k+ in the Washington D.C./Virgina
> >> area are not uncommon.
> >>
> >> I guess it comes down to one's ability to bargain and
> >> how one present's oneself.
> >>
> >> And recall, some positions simply only pay whatever it
> >> is the company pays for the job role.
> >>
> >> I've also heard that pre-sales engineers can do quite
> >> well especially in education and government accounts.
> >>
> >> Expect that salary survey are very general in nature.
> >>
> >> I recall when they used to say I was underpaid and now
> >> it seems according to them I am overpaid.
> >>
> >> It's strange and it is a statistic.
> >>
> >> Best thing to do, is to figure out what it costs you
> >> to live, throw in whatever else you need like
> >> benefits, vacation, retirement, training, etc. and go
> >> for that number +/- however much you will need to be
> >> where you need to be financially.
> >>
> >> Good luck!
> >>
> >> Sorry for the long and boring email.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Michael Zuo <mzuo@ixiacom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Group,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have did a little research online: it looks like
> >>> the average salary
> >>> for CCIE's in California with a few years of
> >>> experience is around 120 to
> >>> 130K range according to various surveys such as Cert
> >>> Mag. Does anyone
> >>> know how accurate are the survey numbers from
> >>> personal experience?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I apologize for being off topic, this group seems to
> >>> be the best place
> >>> to ask this question :-)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Michael Zuo
> >>>
> >>> CCIE #17800
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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