Re: OT: CCIE salary surveys

From: jslauer@hotmail.com
Date: Tue Apr 24 2007 - 07:12:54 ART


your hypothesis is correct in the D.C. area, but that's if you have a
high-level security clearance and are willing to work for a contractor. If
you want something stable, then you wont make as much.

Remember, the places where the salaries are high like this have a very high
cost of living.

Josh

----- Original Message -----
From: "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
To: "Michael Zuo" <mzuo@ixiacom.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: OT: CCIE salary surveys

> Salary's vary.
>
> I've had friends in the Cali area making in the 60k+
> for the CCNA to CCNP level.
>
> I've had class-mates claiming up to 110k incomes at
> the CCNP level - of course they were earning their
> CCIE and were fast-tracking.
>
> So 120-130k is not unnatural, but I would venture that
> seasoned CCIE's are doing better in California.
>
> However, I had several counterparts at NBC and GE and
> I do not recall them saying (or the job postings)
> looking like they paid a lot more than my Southeastern
> wages for the same or similar job description.
>
> Same for my counterparts at 30 Rock in New York - it
> seems that around 90k or so was the base starting
> point, followed with nice raises and bonuses.
>
> Now maybe for the highest level positions but who is
> counting.
>
> I'm in Orlando and if one does not mind the travel the
> ranges I am routinely offered are in the 80-120k range
> +/- some form of bonus paackage for the CCNP level
> with experience. For the record, I have been asked to
> consider greater than 120k - so this is not out of the
> question either even for a CCNP - I'm sure the
> position would have easily preferred a CCIE.
>
> The travel and near-CCIE level positions are in the
> 110-120k + bonus range here in my neck of the woods,
> but for all I know the rates can get better for full
> CCIE's. - I would expect it, some of my current peers
> speak of 135k+ rates, but I have not seen this yet
> myself - but I am not yet a CCIE either.
>
> I've heard people in the Washington and New York areas
> are well paid for their services.
>
> I've heard that 200k+ in the Washington D.C./Virgina
> area are not uncommon.
>
> I guess it comes down to one's ability to bargain and
> how one present's oneself.
>
> And recall, some positions simply only pay whatever it
> is the company pays for the job role.
>
> I've also heard that pre-sales engineers can do quite
> well especially in education and government accounts.
>
> Expect that salary survey are very general in nature.
>
> I recall when they used to say I was underpaid and now
> it seems according to them I am overpaid.
>
> It's strange and it is a statistic.
>
> Best thing to do, is to figure out what it costs you
> to live, throw in whatever else you need like
> benefits, vacation, retirement, training, etc. and go
> for that number +/- however much you will need to be
> where you need to be financially.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Sorry for the long and boring email.
>
>
>
> --- Michael Zuo <mzuo@ixiacom.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Group,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have did a little research online: it looks like
>> the average salary
>> for CCIE's in California with a few years of
>> experience is around 120 to
>> 130K range according to various surveys such as Cert
>> Mag. Does anyone
>> know how accurate are the survey numbers from
>> personal experience?
>>
>>
>>
>> I apologize for being off topic, this group seems to
>> be the best place
>> to ask this question :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Zuo
>>
>> CCIE #17800
>>
>>
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