From: CCIE 19999 (ccie@iprimus.com.au)
Date: Sat Apr 21 2007 - 15:29:24 ART
Folks,
I believe this forum is made for a purpose. Why don't' you people stop
fighting the issues which most of do not want to know about.
Please get back to business; there are guys out here who really need help in
'STUDYING'.
Regards,
Shine
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
charles whang
Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2007 3:45 AM
To: Dan C; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: NOTICE from the CCIECERT
Dan , Before you become ccie, at least you must learn to behave on internet
On 4/21/07, Dan C <cdan2154@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Charles Whang leave us alone with your rubbish stuff you want to promote
> in here, we want to be experts not cheats. Now go away and die
>
> On 4/21/07, charles whang <charleswha@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > hey Godswill
> >
> > Why did u thought like that ?, What mistake did I do ?
> > i only wanna tell about faker , that's all
> >
> > if you are exsiting ccie, actually, you will not want to receive this
> > fact
> > but you should know already most ccie candidates have some real
> > information
> > from mate ,
> > somewhere, then take ccie exam as well ccie written , ccna, ccnp
> > certification is just certification, important things are all of ccie
> > must
> > have ability that can configure all
> > of cisco products as well other vender's products according to network
> > circumstance
> > but this ability is not attained even though acquire ccie certi
> >
> > if you passed ccie exam, you think you can do all everything ?
> > according to your ccie number, you are also ccie, so, did you passed
> > ccna,
> > ccnp, ccie written, ccie
> > labs exam without any information ?
> > if you did not so, do not say like that, if you did so, you are superman
> >
> > and i am alone here
> >
> > Reg
> >
> >
> > On 4/21/07, Godswill Oletu < oletu@inbox.lv> wrote:
> > >
> > > Howard,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I never knew that things have degraded to the point where the like of
> > > Charles Whang and his accomplice are using the group study forum to
> > tout
> > > each other and arguing who have the 'real' or 'fake' labs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The likes of Charles Whang & his cohorts should be disbanded from
> > group
> > > study, also include their originating IP addresses in the black list.
> > They
> > > obviously do no share the common goal and aspirations for which this
> > group
> > > was created.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Getting one's CCIE is not a goal; I see it more as a responsibility
> > than
> > > anything else. If anyone cheat or cut corners to achieve it, he or she
> >
> > > would
> > > not be able to shoulder the responsibilities that come with the
> > > certificate.
> > > That individual will fail & shame himself, his friends, his employer
> > and
> > > the
> > > society that had before now place held him in high esteem.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Before my CCIE, I was predominately working with Cisco Routers,
> > > immediately
> > > after getting my CCIE; I got an offer that I could not refuse from a
> > > Vendor
> > > who is a strong competition to Cisco. Today, I work in one of the
> > largest
> > > Telecom Company in the US designing and implementing IP/MPLS core
> > networks
> > > and integrating them with many other vendor devices including Cisco
> > and
> > > the
> > > other big names. The process and baptism of fire, which I went
> > through,
> > > while preparing for my CCIE prepared me for this position.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Once people know that, you are a CCIE, they look up to you for all
> > answers
> > > and solutions. They believe that, though you might not have all the
> > > answers
> > > right away, you possess the ability to bring the answer and solution
> > to
> > > the
> > > table within a short notice. Sometimes you have to think on your feet,
> > > anyone here who have or is currently working in the Telecoms industry
> > > understands that outages, especially the ones involving E911 have to
> > be
> > > resolved within 20-30 minutes else it will becomes an FCC reportable
> > > event.
> > > We all know how unpleasant it is work with the FCC guys & their fines
> > and
> > > also the likelihood of dealing with dissatisfied customers who are not
> > > only
> > > willing to take their business to the next guy, but are ready to fight
> > you
> > > in court for not be able to make that one important emergency call
> > during
> > > your outage.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Not all CCIEs will have these types of responsibilities, but most
> > would
> > > and
> > > if you cheat to get your certificate, time will caught up with you. It
> > is
> > > like cheating in med school and still wanting to work as a surgeon,
> > you
> > > will
> > > lost self confident in yourself & work, the fact that you cheated will
> > > hurt
> > > you the rest of your life and very soon it will show in your work and
> > > competency, others will see it and your work will show the lack of
> > inner
> > > self confidence.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If CCIE is your aspirations, do not cheat to achieve it. The
> > certification
> > > is very achievable, stay with this group, play your part, study,
> > listen,
> > > practice and before you know it, you will pass with your honor and
> > pride
> > > still in intact.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Howard, thanks for making this forum available to all of us, we
> > appreciate
> > > your efforts in trying to bring some sanity to a very difficulty
> > problem.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Godswill Oletu
> > > CCIE #16464
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "charles whang" < charleswha@gmail.com>
> > > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 11:44 AM
> > > Subject: NOTICE from the CCIECERT
> > >
> > >
> > > > There is NOTICE about the fake site
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > -----------------------------------------------------
> > > > **Famous Fake Sites - Suresxxxx, and Realxxx and Cciexxx and
> > Cciecamxxxx
> > > and
> > > >
> > > > Ccierealxxx**
> > > >
> > > > The above sites only reselling our old labs & fake labs & nothing
> > > > we continuously monitoring all of forum and sites and will find fake
> > guy
> > > > and ,fake sites and then will block from membership
> > > >
> > > > Reaxxxxx.com&net and Ccixxxxx.com&net and
Cciexxxxxx.com<http://cciexxxxxx.com/>and
> > > Ccixxxxx.net <http://ccixxxxx.net/>
> > > > (Pakistan Guy) site are most famous fake sites and running by a same
> > > faker
> > > >
> > > > The fake sites continually try to cheat to pure ccie candidates
> > > > All of update date that is indicated in fake site is also
> > manufacture
> > > > and all of update contents also not latest update question
> > > >
> > > > Do check when the site made up via whois site
> > > >
> > > > We hope that candidate do not suffer damage from the fake site
> > > >
> > > > so, we decided to open the faker name, see the below
> > > > ----------------------------------Name of Fake
> > > > guys---------------------------
> > > > name : misbah mumtaz, country : paksitan, city : multan 1st
> > > > name : shagufta nasim, country : pakistan, city : multan 2st
> > > > the fake guys will change receiver information
> > > >
> > >
> >
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ----
> > > >
> > > > Do not contact this fake site , you will lose money and time to
> > study
> > > >
> > > > **(The fake sites also are using Payment of Credit card by
> > > > https://www.plimus.com)
> > > >
> > > > Once you made payment by Plimus, you never get refund and the faker
> > will
> > > > block you
> > > >
> > > > --> Already some candidates were cheated from the fake site
> > > >
> > > > - Recenlty fake site or fake guys selling fake lab and old, but most
> > of
> > > > them is damaging to ccie candidates by selling old labs and fake
> > > labs,also
> > > > some our old members try to resale our old lab using Email or Forum,
> >
> > > > but customer who bought labs from them will not get real latest labs
> > and
> > > > update labs
> > > >
> > > > Do not believe them , you will never update from fake site, faker
> > guys
> > > > You will lose your money and time to study
> > > >
> > > > Do not send money to Fake site & Fake guys without verification
> > > absolutely
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > >
> > > >
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