From: Scott Morris (smorris@ipexpert.com)
Date: Sat Apr 21 2007 - 13:31:11 ART
Not that I feel like stepping in the middle, but be aware that CCNE, CCNP,
etc. are NOT prerequisites to the CCIE. Many of us simply went straight for
the CCIE.
That doesn't make us supermen/women. It just makes us stranger than others.
:)
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
smorris@ipexpert.com
http://www.ipexpert.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
charles whang
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:54 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com; oletu@inbox.lv
Subject: Re: NOTICE from the CCIECERT
hey Godswill
Why did u thought like that ?, What mistake did I do ?
i only wanna tell about faker , that's all
if you are exsiting ccie, actually, you will not want to receive this fact
but you should know already most ccie candidates have some real information
from mate , somewhere, then take ccie exam as well ccie written , ccna,
ccnp certification is just certification, important things are all of ccie
must have ability that can configure all of cisco products as well other
vender's products according to network circumstance but this ability is not
attained even though acquire ccie certi
if you passed ccie exam, you think you can do all everything ?
according to your ccie number, you are also ccie, so, did you passed ccna,
ccnp, ccie written, ccie labs exam without any information ?
if you did not so, do not say like that, if you did so, you are superman
and i am alone here
Reg
On 4/21/07, Godswill Oletu <oletu@inbox.lv> wrote:
>
> Howard,
>
>
>
> I never knew that things have degraded to the point where the like of
> Charles Whang and his accomplice are using the group study forum to
> tout each other and arguing who have the 'real' or 'fake' labs.
>
>
>
> The likes of Charles Whang & his cohorts should be disbanded from
> group study, also include their originating IP addresses in the black
> list. They obviously do no share the common goal and aspirations for
> which this group was created.
>
>
>
> Getting one's CCIE is not a goal; I see it more as a responsibility
> than anything else. If anyone cheat or cut corners to achieve it, he
> or she would not be able to shoulder the responsibilities that come
> with the certificate.
> That individual will fail & shame himself, his friends, his employer
> and the society that had before now place held him in high esteem.
>
>
>
> Before my CCIE, I was predominately working with Cisco Routers,
> immediately after getting my CCIE; I got an offer that I could not
> refuse from a Vendor who is a strong competition to Cisco. Today, I
> work in one of the largest Telecom Company in the US designing and
> implementing IP/MPLS core networks and integrating them with many
> other vendor devices including Cisco and the other big names. The
> process and baptism of fire, which I went through, while preparing for
> my CCIE prepared me for this position.
>
>
>
> Once people know that, you are a CCIE, they look up to you for all
> answers and solutions. They believe that, though you might not have
> all the answers right away, you possess the ability to bring the
> answer and solution to the table within a short notice. Sometimes you
> have to think on your feet, anyone here who have or is currently
> working in the Telecoms industry understands that outages, especially
> the ones involving E911 have to be resolved within 20-30 minutes else
> it will becomes an FCC reportable event.
> We all know how unpleasant it is work with the FCC guys & their fines
> and also the likelihood of dealing with dissatisfied customers who are
> not only willing to take their business to the next guy, but are ready
> to fight you in court for not be able to make that one important
> emergency call during your outage.
>
>
>
> Not all CCIEs will have these types of responsibilities, but most
> would and if you cheat to get your certificate, time will caught up
> with you. It is like cheating in med school and still wanting to work
> as a surgeon, you will lost self confident in yourself & work, the
> fact that you cheated will hurt you the rest of your life and very
> soon it will show in your work and competency, others will see it and
> your work will show the lack of inner self confidence.
>
>
>
> If CCIE is your aspirations, do not cheat to achieve it. The
> certification is very achievable, stay with this group, play your
> part, study, listen, practice and before you know it, you will pass
> with your honor and pride still in intact.
>
>
>
> Howard, thanks for making this forum available to all of us, we
> appreciate your efforts in trying to bring some sanity to a very
difficulty problem.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Godswill Oletu
> CCIE #16464
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "charles whang" <charleswha@gmail.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 11:44 AM
> Subject: NOTICE from the CCIECERT
>
>
> > There is NOTICE about the fake site
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> -----------------------------------------------------
> > **Famous Fake Sites - Suresxxxx, and Realxxx and Cciexxx and
> > Cciecamxxxx
> and
> >
> > Ccierealxxx**
> >
> > The above sites only reselling our old labs & fake labs & nothing we
> > continuously monitoring all of forum and sites and will find fake
> > guy and ,fake sites and then will block from membership
> >
> > Reaxxxxx.com&net and Ccixxxxx.com&net and Cciexxxxxx.com and
> Ccixxxxx.net
> > (Pakistan Guy) site are most famous fake sites and running by a same
> faker
> >
> > The fake sites continually try to cheat to pure ccie candidates All
> > of update date that is indicated in fake site is also manufacture
> > and all of update contents also not latest update question
> >
> > Do check when the site made up via whois site
> >
> > We hope that candidate do not suffer damage from the fake site
> >
> > so, we decided to open the faker name, see the below
> > ----------------------------------Name of Fake
> > guys---------------------------
> > name : misbah mumtaz, country : paksitan, city : multan 1st name :
> > shagufta nasim, country : pakistan, city : multan 2st the fake guys
> > will change receiver information
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> ----
> >
> > Do not contact this fake site , you will lose money and time to
> > study
> >
> > **(The fake sites also are using Payment of Credit card by
> > https://www.plimus.com)
> >
> > Once you made payment by Plimus, you never get refund and the faker
> > will block you
> >
> > --> Already some candidates were cheated from the fake site
> >
> > - Recenlty fake site or fake guys selling fake lab and old, but most
> > of them is damaging to ccie candidates by selling old labs and fake
> labs,also
> > some our old members try to resale our old lab using Email or Forum,
> > but customer who bought labs from them will not get real latest labs
> > and update labs
> >
> > Do not believe them , you will never update from fake site, faker
> > guys You will lose your money and time to study
> >
> > Do not send money to Fake site & Fake guys without verification
> absolutely
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> ---------------------------------------------
> >
> > ____________________________________________________________________
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