From: charles whang (charleswha@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Apr 21 2007 - 08:53:46 ART
hey Godswill
Why did u thought like that ?, What mistake did I do ?
i only wanna tell about faker , that's all
if you are exsiting ccie, actually, you will not want to receive this fact
but you should know already most ccie candidates have some real information
from mate ,
somewhere, then take ccie exam as well ccie written , ccna, ccnp
certification is just certification, important things are all of ccie must
have ability that can configure all
of cisco products as well other vender's products according to network
circumstance
but this ability is not attained even though acquire ccie certi
if you passed ccie exam, you think you can do all everything ?
according to your ccie number, you are also ccie, so, did you passed ccna,
ccnp, ccie written, ccie
labs exam without any information ?
if you did not so, do not say like that, if you did so, you are superman
and i am alone here
Reg
On 4/21/07, Godswill Oletu <oletu@inbox.lv> wrote:
>
> Howard,
>
>
>
> I never knew that things have degraded to the point where the like of
> Charles Whang and his accomplice are using the group study forum to tout
> each other and arguing who have the 'real' or 'fake' labs.
>
>
>
> The likes of Charles Whang & his cohorts should be disbanded from group
> study, also include their originating IP addresses in the black list. They
> obviously do no share the common goal and aspirations for which this group
> was created.
>
>
>
> Getting one's CCIE is not a goal; I see it more as a responsibility than
> anything else. If anyone cheat or cut corners to achieve it, he or she
> would
> not be able to shoulder the responsibilities that come with the
> certificate.
> That individual will fail & shame himself, his friends, his employer and
> the
> society that had before now place held him in high esteem.
>
>
>
> Before my CCIE, I was predominately working with Cisco Routers,
> immediately
> after getting my CCIE; I got an offer that I could not refuse from a
> Vendor
> who is a strong competition to Cisco. Today, I work in one of the largest
> Telecom Company in the US designing and implementing IP/MPLS core networks
> and integrating them with many other vendor devices including Cisco and
> the
> other big names. The process and baptism of fire, which I went through,
> while preparing for my CCIE prepared me for this position.
>
>
>
> Once people know that, you are a CCIE, they look up to you for all answers
> and solutions. They believe that, though you might not have all the
> answers
> right away, you possess the ability to bring the answer and solution to
> the
> table within a short notice. Sometimes you have to think on your feet,
> anyone here who have or is currently working in the Telecoms industry
> understands that outages, especially the ones involving E911 have to be
> resolved within 20-30 minutes else it will becomes an FCC reportable
> event.
> We all know how unpleasant it is work with the FCC guys & their fines and
> also the likelihood of dealing with dissatisfied customers who are not
> only
> willing to take their business to the next guy, but are ready to fight you
> in court for not be able to make that one important emergency call during
> your outage.
>
>
>
> Not all CCIEs will have these types of responsibilities, but most would
> and
> if you cheat to get your certificate, time will caught up with you. It is
> like cheating in med school and still wanting to work as a surgeon, you
> will
> lost self confident in yourself & work, the fact that you cheated will
> hurt
> you the rest of your life and very soon it will show in your work and
> competency, others will see it and your work will show the lack of inner
> self confidence.
>
>
>
> If CCIE is your aspirations, do not cheat to achieve it. The certification
> is very achievable, stay with this group, play your part, study, listen,
> practice and before you know it, you will pass with your honor and pride
> still in intact.
>
>
>
> Howard, thanks for making this forum available to all of us, we appreciate
> your efforts in trying to bring some sanity to a very difficulty problem.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Godswill Oletu
> CCIE #16464
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "charles whang" <charleswha@gmail.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 11:44 AM
> Subject: NOTICE from the CCIECERT
>
>
> > There is NOTICE about the fake site
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------------------------------------------------
> > **Famous Fake Sites - Suresxxxx, and Realxxx and Cciexxx and Cciecamxxxx
> and
> >
> > Ccierealxxx**
> >
> > The above sites only reselling our old labs & fake labs & nothing
> > we continuously monitoring all of forum and sites and will find fake guy
> > and ,fake sites and then will block from membership
> >
> > Reaxxxxx.com&net and Ccixxxxx.com&net and Cciexxxxxx.com and
> Ccixxxxx.net
> > (Pakistan Guy) site are most famous fake sites and running by a same
> faker
> >
> > The fake sites continually try to cheat to pure ccie candidates
> > All of update date that is indicated in fake site is also manufacture
> > and all of update contents also not latest update question
> >
> > Do check when the site made up via whois site
> >
> > We hope that candidate do not suffer damage from the fake site
> >
> > so, we decided to open the faker name, see the below
> > ----------------------------------Name of Fake
> > guys---------------------------
> > name : misbah mumtaz, country : paksitan, city : multan 1st
> > name : shagufta nasim, country : pakistan, city : multan 2st
> > the fake guys will change receiver information
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
> >
> > Do not contact this fake site , you will lose money and time to study
> >
> > **(The fake sites also are using Payment of Credit card by
> > https://www.plimus.com)
> >
> > Once you made payment by Plimus, you never get refund and the faker will
> > block you
> >
> > --> Already some candidates were cheated from the fake site
> >
> > - Recenlty fake site or fake guys selling fake lab and old, but most of
> > them is damaging to ccie candidates by selling old labs and fake
> labs,also
> > some our old members try to resale our old lab using Email or Forum,
> > but customer who bought labs from them will not get real latest labs and
> > update labs
> >
> > Do not believe them , you will never update from fake site, faker guys
> > You will lose your money and time to study
> >
> > Do not send money to Fake site & Fake guys without verification
> absolutely
> >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
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