From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Sat Apr 21 2007 - 04:00:29 ART
Man, it is unbelievable, let's NOT talk about these guys, don't you guys
understand that when we talk about them we are advertising for these idiots?
Unless you are with them?
On 4/20/07, ismail el-shalh <ishelh_mdsa@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Whether these labs are fake or real , I advise all the
> candidates to ignore it. Count on yourself in the preparation, practice
> and
> learn through different vendor workbooks.
>
>
>
>
>
> I am fully trust that when you will get the CCIE No. via
> cheating you will never feel the taste of the fruit and you will end up
> with no
> respect.
>
>
>
> Ismail
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: charles whang <charleswha@gmail.com>
> To: eric_dobyns@yahoo.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:00:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Real CCIE Labs Website
>
> Hi
>
> Eric , What do you say ?, this story is about faker, not NDA
> Important thing is the site is fake site running a few another fake sites
> also by same faker
>
> Reg
>
>
> On 4/20/07, Eric Dobyns <eric_dobyns@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I wouldn't risk messing with those guys, legitimate or not. If they are
> > selling stuff that violates the NDA and you use it, you could get your
> > CCIE
> > taken away for life.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > charles whang
> > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:13 PM
> > To: Narbik Kocharians; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Real CCIE Labs Website
> >
> > Yeah, i also already contacted a few site for my lab before, and have a
> > ccie mate who cheated from the fake site
> > at least we must warn about the faker for other person who do not know
> > about
> > the fake site
> >
> >
> > On 4/20/07, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > You know what, i think the more we talk about these guys, the more we
> > are
> > > promoting thier garbge product. But i totally agree with you.
> > >
> > > On 4/19/07, charles whang <charleswha@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 100% agreed with anthony
> > > > The sites are faker sites , i saw the notice about the faker via
> > > > cciecert.net
> > > > also most of Guys knew about this faker
> > > >
> > > > Scott find the below things
> > > > The domain "supposedly" is registered in New York.
> > > > DNS is supplied by a Florida company.
> > > > The IP address is based out of Texas.
> > > > The payment place is a California company.
> > > > As is the IP address for the payment place.
> > > > The "labs" come from China. (where the money goes)
> > > >
> > > > This faker has had many other domain names following the same "path"
> > of
> > > > registrations and IP's. So nothing new here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/20/07, anthony.sequeira@thomson.com <
> anthony.sequeira@thomson.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It was great for a laugh though - thanks for sharing in that
> > > > > respect....some of my favorite parts:
> > > > >
> > > > > "Q. How " Real ccie Labs " are more important than attending a
> ccie
> > > > > training Boot camp?
> > > > >
> > > > > A. By attending ccie boot camps, candidates waste their time by
> > > > > practicing mock labs or ccie workbooks. But by preparing and
> > > > practicing
> > > > > Real ccie Labs, candidates are preparing real ccie lab exams."
> > > > >
> > > > > Also - the testimonials are completely fake - note the lack of a
> > real
> > > > > number:
> > > > > "CCIE # 15x3x (R&S) : I just finished my CCIE LAB and have got
> ccie
> > > > > number.. Your REAL CCIE LABS are lil angels!!! I can't imagine how
> I
> > > > > could pass my exams without your help. Thank you"
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, where is the Contact Us link???
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally - if you think there are only 3 labs currently in use by
> > Cisco
> > > > -
> > > > > I have some excellent Real Estate for you here in Florida.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anthony J Sequeira
> > > > > #15626
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com ] On
> > Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > > Brad Ellis
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:33 PM
> > > > > To: Elliott Reyes; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: Real CCIE Labs Website
> > > > >
> > > > > Elliott,
> > > > >
> > > > > The best thing you can do is NOT post the website around, promote
> > > > them,
> > > > > etc.
> > > > > report them to the NDA folks at cisco.
> > > > >
> > > > > -brad
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Elliott Reyes" <elliottreyes@adelphia.net>
> > > > > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:00 PM
> > > > > Subject: Real CCIE Labs Website -
> > > > >
> > > > > > Has anyone seen this ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know there's a bunch of thread's on this but damn look at how
> > much
> > > > > they
> > > > > > charge for this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sound's like a huge ripoff to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > E
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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