From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Apr 19 2007 - 23:38:07 ART
By the way I could not answer you earlier because I was teaching a boot
camp, but here it goes:
*nice....so narbik you are suggesting a good bootcamp can replace all the
recommended reading.*
To answer this statement, well my friend you have read lots of books, so why
don't you READ what I wrote, before making any statements, I recommended a
boot camp and I also wrote that some of the books are good like *TCP/IP VOL
I, II and WENDELL ODOMs QOS and ETC*. Which part of that is confusing to
you? Did I say that a boot camp will replace the books? Did I even use the
word replace?
* *
*I always thought the purpose of CCIE was to learn
technoplogies, develop good reading habits and not just pass the test.
Ultimately these CCIEs should able to write RFCs, come up with new ideas or
contribute in some fashion.*
* *
Mate, first of all its TECHNOLOGIES and NOT TECHNOPLOGIES. Secondly what
have you contributed to this industry? What RFCs have you written? I have
not seen your work book YET. What new idea have you come up with so far in
your technoplogies?
*wonder how you guys passed your CCIEs? whose bootcamp you attended Narbik?
And whose bootcamp your instructor attended? I'll like to trace the person
at the end who indeed read the books and asked them to guide this list.*
I passed my THREE CCIEs the way you will pass after failing it few thousand
times. DO NOT attack people that you don't know. In my boot camps I teach
the protocols and I mean every one of the protocols in the blue print. I am
proud of the way I teach and I enjoy it very much, my students can tell you
that.
You know why I can teach them and get three CCIEs? Because I have been in
this industry for the last thirty years, when some people like you were
drinking your milk and wearing your diapers, I was operating and installing
main frame and it's components. I do not know who you are, but you are one
rude frustrated person that is totally confused and out of line.
LALA, you are either the LALA from Teletubies or you live in LALA land,
think about what you are saying. How else do you get your CCIEs? And let's
not continue on this, people are NOT interested in your frustrated comments.
Victor I do not know what you are referring to?
On 4/19/07, Victor Cappuccio <victor@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>
> Shahid, many as you think the same in the same way. But other many just
> care
> to be the best professional in networking (quick ccies you can call it). I
> personally know some CCIE that they have not touch a router in almost 10
> years, and some that they just got out from the lab (6 month) and they
> have
> still the "Knowledge"
>
> is just a way to see this as an almost empty glass of watter
>
> Just my 2 cents
> Victor.-
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com on behalf of Lala Lander
> Sent: Thu 4/19/2007 13:10
> To: Scott Thornton
> Cc: engshad.shady@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE Recommanded books
>
> nice....so narbik you are suggesting a good bootcamp can replace all the
> recommended reading. I always thought the purpose of CCIE was to learn
> technoplogies, develop good reading habits and not just pass the test.
> Ultimately these CCIEs should able to write RFCs, come up with new ideas
> or
> contribute in some fashion. If they dont read books, dont understand
> protocols deeply, dont understand thought process of protocol
> designers,how
> are they suppose to do anything new in the field?
>
> I wonder how you guys passed your CCIEs? whose bootcamp you attended
> Narbik?
> And whose bootcamp your instructor attended? I'll like to trace the person
> at the end who indeed read the books and asked them to guide this list.
>
> Shahid
> CCIE #12665 (R&S) and reading books for CCIE Security and SP for last 6
> months now!
>
>
> On 4/19/07, Scott Thornton <scthornton@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I read the book from ccbootcamp, did a couple practice tests and then
> > took the test...got a 94.
> >
> > depending on your background, I wouldn't waste your time on anything
> > else...
> >
> > if you can or have passed the ccnp and have experience with mulicast,
> > wireless. qos...and actually understand those technologies you should
> > be able to pass...
> >
> > On 4/19/07, engshad.shady@gmail.com <engshad.shady@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > i need to know whate is the recommanded book to read for ccie written
> > from
> > > the new released books that cover the topics of exames (the good books
> > in
> > > your view )
> > >
> > >
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-- Narbik Kocharians CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) CCSI# 30832 Network Learning, Inc. (CCIE class Instructor) www.ccbootcamp.com (CCIE Training)
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