Re: Re: Re: MC / PIM SSM +

From: mariam.tatevik@yahoo.com
Date: Fri Apr 06 2007 - 13:59:28 ART


Hi,

did you test with DYNAMIPS too ?

R4 ----- PIM SM ----- R1 ----- PIM SM ----- R2

Only Loopbacks were used e.g.
Source R1-Loopback ==> Dest. R2-Loop1 IGMPv3
Source R1 (loopback) ==> Dest. R2-Loop2 IGMPv2
Source R4 (Loopback) ==> Dest. R2-Loop2 IGMPv2

All ping were extended like
R1#ping
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 232.200.200.200
Repeat count [1]:
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]:
Extended commands [n]: y
Interface [All]: FastEthernet0/0.12
Time to live [255]:
Source address: Loopback0
Type of service [0]:
Set DF bit in IP header? [no]:
Validate reply data? [no]:
Data pattern [0xABCD]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 1, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 232.200.200.200, timeout is 2 seconds:
Packet sent with a source address of 10.10.1.1

Reply to request 0 from 12.12.12.2, 184 ms

You wrote "I think this explains the theory that
PIM is multicast routing protocol"
What does mean?

I cannot understand "1-hop-success" ;-(
Any explanations ?

Internet Group Management Protocol (IGMP) is used to dynamically register individual hosts in a multicast group on a particular local-area network. Enabling PIM on an interface also enables IGMP.
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios124/124cg/himc_c/chap10/mcbcigmp.htm

I did not find a statement like
"YOU MUST ACTIVATE PIM BEFORE ip igmp join-group
otherwise your MC group is reachable for 1-hop-sources" ;-)

Thanks

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Hi,

I just tested after reading carefully your mail :)

I see these result

If I enable IGMP v1, 2 and 3 without enabling PIM, I am able to ping in
one hop.
You mentioned that you were not able to ping IGMP v3 from one hop
without PIM enabled on the interface. But I am able to.

I think this explains the theory that PIM is multicast routing protocol. I
am very much interested to discuss more detail if you want to.

Thanks,

Anees.

mariam.tatevik@yahoo.com wrote:
Thanks a lot for your feedback.

of course I used source x.x.x.x

My question was/is

Is it the absolutely necessity
to activate PIM on an interface which
will be used for igmp join-group ?

In "legacy" IGMPv2 I was able to
ping to an loopback interface w/o Active PIM
(but only from 1 "hop distance").

Is it a general or just best practice ?

Pls any comments

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You need to add

int fa 0/0
ip pim sparse-mode
ip pim igmp version 3
ip igmp join-group 239.50.50.50 source 1.1.1.1

You need to mention the source in the igmp version 3.

Thanks,

Anees.

mariam.tatevik@yahoo.com wrote:
Hello MC Gurus !

I do need a feedback, pls...

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Hi GS,

testing PIM SSM by means of DYNAMIPS and trying
to verify the "best config" for PIM SSM

R4 ----- PIM SM ----- R1 ----- PIM SM ----- R2

all routers with PIM SM & PIM SSM DEF

R2 has Loopbacks with IP IGMP v3 & JOING-GROUPs 232.x.x.x

==>> It was not possible to ping w/o PIM activation on Loopbacks

Who could confirm this behavior based on REAL gears ?

Moreover, for usual IGMPv2 groups on R2 (with AutoRP listener)
it was possible to ping loopback-groups (239.y.y.y) from R1 only.
From R4 solid pings are possible only to the groups on a Loopback
with active PIM SM!

Is that a "hop" problem ?



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