From: Ryan (ryan95842@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Mar 29 2007 - 13:49:56 ART
<SNIP>
There is a rumor that says the proctors can add or
subtract 5 points per lab candidate based on their
impression.
There is also a rumor or a quota system whereby only 1
or 2 candidates per site can pass the lab on a given
day.
</SNIP>
This would not surprise me at all...I spend most of the day at their desks
asking questions. But they were not questions like I could do it this way or
that way, which do you prefer. I was asking reading comprehension questions.
Question says X but over here it says Y which conflicts with X or they ask
for X and Y, but say nothing of Z which I would think you would need to
accomplish X and Y, Is it ok to configure Z or just leave X and Y not
working?
Also, I noticed the little VNC service running and my mouse jump across the
screen a few times...Big Brother IS watching you...
-Ryan
On 3/29/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> The regrade is your solution if you feel you did pass.
>
> Let's kill the rumors, right here and right now:
>
> Cisco CCIE Proctors are not out "to get you". They
> are not going to tamper with your rack.
>
> In case anyone has not spoken to a proctor lately, the
> entire of the goal of the program is to standardize
> the "lab experience".
>
> They cannot do this unless they mess with everyone the
> exact same way.
>
>
> If you failed the exam, it is more likely, whether you
> want to admit it to yourself or not, that you did not
> do "EXACTLY" what they requested of you to do.
>
> Now, I know that comes as a surprise to many and for
> all those who tell us there are alternate solutions to
> most problems presented in the lab, but the fact is
> the lab is now pretty standardized and as a result,
> they try to be clear in their questions (and I know
> this has been debated as well).
>
> The fact is the lab is a "READING COMPREHENSION EXAM".
> By this I mean if you are reading it, then yuo need
> to comprehend your options and know which options they
> have limited you to.
>
> If there are exactly 3 ways to do somethng, which 2
> have they taken away? If there were 4 ways to do
> something, which 3 are removed, etc.
>
> Some like to think in the 3-WAY variety that they have
> to find that quirky 4th way...
>
> Good luck to you on the re-grade.
>
> For me, I look at each option, I ask myself how many
> ways there are to do something, and I ask myself what
> exactly has been excluded.
>
> If I am in any doubt, then that is why there is a
> proctor present, and it is my right to ask for
> clarification, but the word is that I better know my
> options and I alos better know what those options
> would likely do... explicitly.
>
> There is a rumor that says the proctors can add or
> subtract 5 points per lab candidate based on their
> impression.
>
> There is also a rumor or a quota system whereby only 1
> or 2 candidates per site can pass the lab on a given
> day.
>
> Those are strictly rumors, but then I've never heard
> of say more than 2 people from a given testing center
> pass on a given day and most times never recall
> hearing more than one, come to think of it, or at
> least not that often.
>
>
> The simple truth is, many of us take the exam and fail
> based on our own merit and preparation for the lab
> exam.
>
> If you sum it up to anything else, then you probably
> need to review your options.
>
> If you doubt me, send me your study notes and I'll
> review them until I find where you are short - add my
> comments and send them back.
>
>
> Trust me, there is a lot of material to cover, no
> vendor covers it the same way and every vendor I have
> visted has taught me things the others did not, and
> maybe it was because the previous vendors had already
> filled me to my own learning capacity and I could not
> absorb quite everything that was presented (aka Mr.
> Caslow and Mr. Dennis).
>
> Every time I review my notes or watch a video again it
> seems, I find a nugget that either I understand a bit
> better or find something I may have overlooked.
>
> Are you postive you are 100% on everything or at least
> 80% of everything?
>
> Remember 79% is not a pass.
>
>
>
> --- Martin Kiefer <martin@kiefer.dk> wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > If you feel you nailed it, I would definitely go for
> > a reread from Cisco.
> > Let them check your score and lab. The script is not
> > without its faults.
> >
> > But you should have gotten a score report saying in
> > which technologies you
> > failed. That usually gives a pretty good indication
> > on what went wrong.
> >
> > HTH
> > Martin
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Ryan
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:07 AM
> > > To: Cisco certification
> > > Subject: Frustrating - failed 1st attempt
> > >
> > > I failed my 1st attempt yesterday at San Jose.
> > >
> > > I'm extremely frustrated right now because I
> > walked out believing I had
> > > nailed it, yet I some how failed and I have no
> > idea what went wrong.
> > >
> > > I arrived 2 days head of time and got a great
> > night's sleep before the
> > > lab.
> > > I finished the lab in about 5 hours and verified
> > my configurations over
> > > the
> > > remaining three hours. Found a few minor issues
> > and did some tweaking.
> > > I
> > > asked the proctors for clarification on almost
> > every question (Proctors
> > > were
> > > great and very patient) and got good feedback
> > regarding the questions.
> > > Reloaded the routers and checked everything again.
> > I left with
> > > everything
> > > working (except for 3pts of IP service which I
> > intentionally did not
> > > do) and
> > > feeling like I had just kicked the lab's ass.
> > >
> > > Then this morning I wake up to a score report that
> > says I failed.
> > > What's
> > > worse is I have no idea what I could have done
> > wrong. There was nothing
> > > on
> > > the test that was difficult or I was not very
> > familiar with. I even
> > > verified
> > > several config's right from the doc CD where the
> > command description
> > > read
> > > almost verbatim what they were asking.
> > >
> > > Could I have gotten someone else's score report?
> > >
> > > I'm sure many have thought the same thing. I'm
> > just really frustrated
> > > as I
> > > don't know what I did wrong and I have no idea how
> > to prepare for my
> > > next
> > > attempt?
> > >
> > > Time management was not an issue, stress was not
> > an issue, technology
> > > was
> > > not an issue, and I'm pretty sure question
> > interpretation was not an
> > > issue.
> > > Obviously there was some issue, but how do I find
> > it? How do I found
> > > out
> > > what I did wrong so I can correct it? Maybe
> > technology was an issue.
> > > Maybe I
> > > needed more configuration or they were looking for
> > a specific solution.
> > > How
> > > could I know?
> > >
> > > Aaaaaghghgh!!!!
> > >
> > > Sorry for the whining...I'm just really
> > frustrated...
> > >
> > >
> > > -Ryan
> > >
> > > (going to try to reconstruct the lab from memory
> > and see if I can
> > > determine
> > > where I went wrong)
> > >
> > >
> >
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