From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Mar 29 2007 - 07:31:08 ART
The regrade is your solution if you feel you did pass.
Let's kill the rumors, right here and right now:
Cisco CCIE Proctors are not out "to get you". They
are not going to tamper with your rack.
In case anyone has not spoken to a proctor lately, the
entire of the goal of the program is to standardize
the "lab experience".
They cannot do this unless they mess with everyone the
exact same way.
If you failed the exam, it is more likely, whether you
want to admit it to yourself or not, that you did not
do "EXACTLY" what they requested of you to do.
Now, I know that comes as a surprise to many and for
all those who tell us there are alternate solutions to
most problems presented in the lab, but the fact is
the lab is now pretty standardized and as a result,
they try to be clear in their questions (and I know
this has been debated as well).
The fact is the lab is a "READING COMPREHENSION EXAM".
By this I mean if you are reading it, then yuo need
to comprehend your options and know which options they
have limited you to.
If there are exactly 3 ways to do somethng, which 2
have they taken away? If there were 4 ways to do
something, which 3 are removed, etc.
Some like to think in the 3-WAY variety that they have
to find that quirky 4th way...
Good luck to you on the re-grade.
For me, I look at each option, I ask myself how many
ways there are to do something, and I ask myself what
exactly has been excluded.
If I am in any doubt, then that is why there is a
proctor present, and it is my right to ask for
clarification, but the word is that I better know my
options and I alos better know what those options
would likely do... explicitly.
There is a rumor that says the proctors can add or
subtract 5 points per lab candidate based on their
impression.
There is also a rumor or a quota system whereby only 1
or 2 candidates per site can pass the lab on a given
day.
Those are strictly rumors, but then I've never heard
of say more than 2 people from a given testing center
pass on a given day and most times never recall
hearing more than one, come to think of it, or at
least not that often.
The simple truth is, many of us take the exam and fail
based on our own merit and preparation for the lab
exam.
If you sum it up to anything else, then you probably
need to review your options.
If you doubt me, send me your study notes and I'll
review them until I find where you are short - add my
comments and send them back.
Trust me, there is a lot of material to cover, no
vendor covers it the same way and every vendor I have
visted has taught me things the others did not, and
maybe it was because the previous vendors had already
filled me to my own learning capacity and I could not
absorb quite everything that was presented (aka Mr.
Caslow and Mr. Dennis).
Every time I review my notes or watch a video again it
seems, I find a nugget that either I understand a bit
better or find something I may have overlooked.
Are you postive you are 100% on everything or at least
80% of everything?
Remember 79% is not a pass.
--- Martin Kiefer <martin@kiefer.dk> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> If you feel you nailed it, I would definitely go for
> a reread from Cisco.
> Let them check your score and lab. The script is not
> without its faults.
>
> But you should have gotten a score report saying in
> which technologies you
> failed. That usually gives a pretty good indication
> on what went wrong.
>
> HTH
> Martin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Ryan
> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 1:07 AM
> > To: Cisco certification
> > Subject: Frustrating - failed 1st attempt
> >
> > I failed my 1st attempt yesterday at San Jose.
> >
> > I'm extremely frustrated right now because I
> walked out believing I had
> > nailed it, yet I some how failed and I have no
> idea what went wrong.
> >
> > I arrived 2 days head of time and got a great
> night's sleep before the
> > lab.
> > I finished the lab in about 5 hours and verified
> my configurations over
> > the
> > remaining three hours. Found a few minor issues
> and did some tweaking.
> > I
> > asked the proctors for clarification on almost
> every question (Proctors
> > were
> > great and very patient) and got good feedback
> regarding the questions.
> > Reloaded the routers and checked everything again.
> I left with
> > everything
> > working (except for 3pts of IP service which I
> intentionally did not
> > do) and
> > feeling like I had just kicked the lab's ass.
> >
> > Then this morning I wake up to a score report that
> says I failed.
> > What's
> > worse is I have no idea what I could have done
> wrong. There was nothing
> > on
> > the test that was difficult or I was not very
> familiar with. I even
> > verified
> > several config's right from the doc CD where the
> command description
> > read
> > almost verbatim what they were asking.
> >
> > Could I have gotten someone else's score report?
> >
> > I'm sure many have thought the same thing. I'm
> just really frustrated
> > as I
> > don't know what I did wrong and I have no idea how
> to prepare for my
> > next
> > attempt?
> >
> > Time management was not an issue, stress was not
> an issue, technology
> > was
> > not an issue, and I'm pretty sure question
> interpretation was not an
> > issue.
> > Obviously there was some issue, but how do I find
> it? How do I found
> > out
> > what I did wrong so I can correct it? Maybe
> technology was an issue.
> > Maybe I
> > needed more configuration or they were looking for
> a specific solution.
> > How
> > could I know?
> >
> > Aaaaaghghgh!!!!
> >
> > Sorry for the whining...I'm just really
> frustrated...
> >
> >
> > -Ryan
> >
> > (going to try to reconstruct the lab from memory
> and see if I can
> > determine
> > where I went wrong)
> >
> >
>
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