From: Narbik Kocharians (narbikk@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Mar 19 2007 - 23:05:50 ART
Oh yes, 3640s will support 99 if not 100 percent of the items identified in
the blue print.
On 3/19/07, Ian Stong <istong@stong.org> wrote:
>
> True - meant to say Ent plus! The point remains a 3640 works great and
> has
> the features you need.
>
>
> Ian
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Martin Kiefer
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 4:27 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: LAb Equipment ...
>
> Hi.
>
> Sorry to say it. But 3640 does not support 12.4 advanced enterprise. No
> matter how much memory you put into it.
>
> The closest you can get is 12.4 Enterprise Plus.
>
> Best regards
> Martin Kiefer
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > istong@stong.org
> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 5:24 PM
> > To: Narbik Kocharians; Bill Mckenzie
> > Cc: ananth.sarma@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: LAb Equipment ...
> >
> > A 3640 will definatley meet your needs for now as long as
> > you are running it with 128/32 and 12.4(x) or newer Adv
> > Enter. The only issue I have seen with 3640's is occasional
> > tracebacks. Feature set wise they work great and can be
> > purchased at a reasonable price.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ian
> > www.CCIE4u.com
> >
> >
> >
> > > I totally agree with Tony, but could some one tell me as
> > > far as the CCIE R&S is concerned, what is it that 3640s
> > > don't support? I think they support 99 - 100 percent of
> > > what is specified in the test. For one or two commands i
> > > will not spend 10K. But as Tony mentioned for 10K you can
> > > have a rack 365/24 so why worry about anything?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/19/07, Bill Mckenzie <bmckenzie@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I can see benefits from both sides but the main problem
> > > > I see with renting rack time is that you are tied to a
> > > > specific schedule (vendor's time slots)
> > > > and many people are competing for the
> > > > same "better hour times" and when having your own rack,
> > > > you can practice a
> > > > couple hours here...a couple there. Besides that, it's
> > > > all personal preference.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bill Mckenzie, CCIE#16725, CCVP
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Tony Schaffran" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: "Tony Schaffran"
> > > > <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com> >To:
> > > > <ananth.sarma@gmail.com> >CC: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
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> > > > >Ananth,
> > > > >
> > > > >Save yourself a lot of time and frustration gathering
> > > > sub standard >equipment
> > > > >and dealing with ebay fraud.
> > > > >
> > > > >Unless you just want to be intimately familiar with
> > > > troubleshooting memory
> > > > >and module hardware issues.
> > > > >
> > > > >If it is the CCIE certification that is your end goal,
> > > > do like Martin >suggested and invest your $10K in
> > > > quality rack time. For that cost, you >could get well
> > > > over 1 year of rack time every single day if you wanted
> > > > to >spend that much. >
> > > > >Some people think that after you purchase the equipment
> > > > yourself and pass >the lab, then you can resell the
> > > > equipment to get your investment back, but
> > > > >just how much do you think those 2600's and 3600's will
> > > > be work in another
> > > > >year or two?
> > > > >
> > > > >Whatever you decide, good luck with your studies.
> > > > >
> > > > >Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Tony Schaffran
> > > > >Network Analyst
> > > > >CCIE #11071
> > > > >CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > > > >NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> > > > >
> > > > >www.cconlinelabs.com
> > > > >Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > > > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of >Martin
> > > > Kiefer >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:46 AM
> > > > >To: ananth.sarma@gmail.com
> > > > >Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > >Subject: RE: LAb Equipment ...
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi.
> > > > >
> > > > >Well, I think the lab is overprized, the 3640 routers
> > > > are old and you need
> > > > >at least 3 more routers in your POD for backbone
> > > > routers, and (as one >mentioned) one for frame-relay
> > > > switch. The FR switch can easily be one of >the BB
> > > > routers. >
> > > > >I would look on ebay for some 2600 XM routers. They can
> > > > be found at a >reasonable price going from 500 USD and
> > > > up to around a 1000 USD depends on
> > > > >the amount of cards and memory.
> > > > >
> > > > >Then of course you will need 4 switches in a
> > > > combination of 3550 and 3560s.
> > > > >The 3560s might be the biggest post on the budget, for
> > > > some reason ebay.com
> > > > >3560s costs a fortune compared to the ones in Europe.
> > > > >
> > > > >Finally you need the terminal server, cables and maybe
> > > > wic-cards but all of
> > > > >those things can be found cheap on ebay.
> > > > >
> > > > >You will probably end up paying a bit more for the lab
> > > > than the 10K. But >you
> > > > >will have a better and more up to date lab and when you
> > > > are done with it, >it's more easy to sell again so you
> > > > won't lose that much money on it. >
> > > > >One last thing to have in mind, you can actually get a
> > > > lot of rack time for
> > > > >those 10K out there. Just look around and you won't
> > > > have all the problems >with getting the gear.
> > > > >
> > > > >Best regards
> > > > >Martin Kiefer
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > > > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > > > ananth.sarma@gmail.com
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 1:43 AM
> > > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > > Subject: LAb Equipment ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I recently attended a CCIE bootcamp of 1 month long
> > > > > > in India which was nice.
> > > > > > One good thing is that they allow us to practise on
> > > > the pods during the
> > > > > > nights indefinitely FOC!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am planning to buy a POD to practice until my lab
> > > > > > exam. ( 6 months from now!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you give me some good suggestions in
> > > > > > selecting/buying the Routers and Switches?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I found a good deal in E-bay costing $10k which
> > > > > > includes around 6 x 3640, 2 x 3560, 2x 3550, 1 x
> > > > > > 26xx Access Server along with cables and ports.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it a worthwhile investment? I have heard about
> > > > > > on-line labs but never tried them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tough I enjoyed the bootcamp, needed to brush up on
> > > > > > some areas and I was slow on the labs. I tend to
> > > > > > slow down while focusing on the solutions mainly on
> > > > > > Route-maps creation and Redistribution. Your
> > > valuable suggestions are welcome. How do I speed up on the
> > > > > lab? >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ananth G Sarma
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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