From: Daniel_Steyn@Dell.com
Date: Mon Mar 19 2007 - 21:19:36 ART
....now, Martin, you do have a point on the vacation issue! =)
-----Original Message-----
From: Steyn, Daniel
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 7:18 PM
To: 'Martin Kiefer'; 'Digital Yemeni'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: OT: CCIE Salary - For people taking H1-B's - Listen
carefully.
I don't know where your family lives in the US - but most US companies
DO include healthcare as part of the compensation package and public
schools are indeed "free" (as in government run and tax supported) - so
you do not have to pay for education of your kids yourself.
I do not have any children but the largest tax that I pay (associated
with my property taxes) is a public school tax! I would rather have to
pay for the education of my kids myself and opt out of the "free"
schooling system. ;)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Martin Kiefer
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 6:53 PM
To: 'Digital Yemeni'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: OT: CCIE Salary - For people taking H1-B's - Listen
carefully.
Compared to other countries in the world are the taxes in the US not
that bad. Where I come from we pay much more and get much more.
One thing I have noticed when talking to my family members in the US,
they all complain about how difficult it is to do your own taxes.
It's not the taxes that would keep me away from the US, it's all the
other things, not much vacation, a lousy (you have to pay for it
yourself) health care system, you have to pay for the education of your
kids yourself etc...
Best regards
Martin Kiefer
Denmark
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Digital Yemeni
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:18 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OT: CCIE Salary - For people taking H1-B's - Listen
> carefully.
>
> With regards to this interesting topic, can anyone tell how much
> ((((Tax))))
> he/she would pay out of that 150K a year?! Taxes in the US are simply
> mad and discouraging anyone wanting to work there! It's NOT OK if
> somebody takes what you have been sweating for everyday (((morning to
> night))) sucks!!
> ;-)
>
> --
> Best Regards!
> Digital, CCIE# to be assigned by Cisco when it collects enough $$ out
> of me!
> :p
>
>
>
>
> On 3/20/07, joshua lauer <jslauer@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > some people just want a slice of the american pie and are willing to
> take
> > anything to get it. Maybe they are just looking for a foot in the
> door.
> > All
> > this is difficult to understand for those of us who live here
> already.
> >
> > Companies know this, they also know what you get paid in the home
> country.
> > They are also sponsoring the employee with the H1-B that right there
> is a
> > benefit to them.
> >
> > So I wouldnt call anyone stupid for accepting a deal, 30k is a bit
> > low..but 50k-60k may be acceptable considering the company is
> > hooking them up
> with
> > the
> > H1-B and giving them a chance to come to america!
> >
> >
> >
> > Josh> From: martin@kiefer.dk> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com> Subject:
> RE: OT:
> > CCIE Salary - For people taking H1-B's - Listen carefully.> Date:
> Mon, 19
> > Mar
> > 2007 23:28:57 +0100> > > So it's a catch and the employers know that
> for a
> > ccie a sweatshop> > will> > sign a contract for $80-140 /hr easy and
> only
> > pay
> > the engineer about> > 20/hr.> > whle the engineer figures out where
> to
> > live
> > and how to survive in that> > amount the employer is vacationing in
> > hawaaiii.>
> > > > > This is something that I really do not understand. If you have
> a
> > CCIE
> > you> are considered to be quite intelligent. So why would anyone
> > you> with
> such
> > an>
> > intelligence not look around before accepting a low paid job?> > It
> takes
> > no
> > more than 5 to 10 minutes on Google to do a search about the> area
> you are
> > about to work at and do a compare with your salary versus the>
> housing and
> > living costs.> > BTW who would work for a company that does not
> > offer
> more
> > than 3 weeks of> vacation each year :-)> > Best regards> Martin
> Kiefer> >
> >
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