RE: LAb Equipment ...

From: Martin Kiefer (martin@kiefer.dk)
Date: Mon Mar 19 2007 - 17:27:11 ART


Hi.

Sorry to say it. But 3640 does not support 12.4 advanced enterprise. No
matter how much memory you put into it.

The closest you can get is 12.4 Enterprise Plus.

Best regards
Martin Kiefer

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> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 5:24 PM
> To: Narbik Kocharians; Bill Mckenzie
> Cc: ananth.sarma@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: LAb Equipment ...
>
> A 3640 will definatley meet your needs for now as long as
> you are running it with 128/32 and 12.4(x) or newer Adv
> Enter. The only issue I have seen with 3640's is occasional
> tracebacks. Feature set wise they work great and can be
> purchased at a reasonable price.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ian
> www.CCIE4u.com
>
>
>
> > I totally agree with Tony, but could some one tell me as
> > far as the CCIE R&S is concerned, what is it that 3640s
> > don't support? I think they support 99 - 100 percent of
> > what is specified in the test. For one or two commands i
> > will not spend 10K. But as Tony mentioned for 10K you can
> > have a rack 365/24 so why worry about anything?
> >
> >
> > On 3/19/07, Bill Mckenzie <bmckenzie@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I can see benefits from both sides but the main problem
> > > I see with renting rack time is that you are tied to a
> > > specific schedule (vendor's time slots)
> > > and many people are competing for the
> > > same "better hour times" and when having your own rack,
> > > you can practice a
> > > couple hours here...a couple there. Besides that, it's
> > > all personal preference.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill Mckenzie, CCIE#16725, CCVP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Tony Schaffran" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>
> > > >Reply-To: "Tony Schaffran"
> > > <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com> >To:
> > > <ananth.sarma@gmail.com> >CC: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > >Subject: RE: LAb Equipment ...
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> > > >Ananth,
> > > >
> > > >Save yourself a lot of time and frustration gathering
> > > sub standard >equipment
> > > >and dealing with ebay fraud.
> > > >
> > > >Unless you just want to be intimately familiar with
> > > troubleshooting memory
> > > >and module hardware issues.
> > > >
> > > >If it is the CCIE certification that is your end goal,
> > > do like Martin >suggested and invest your $10K in
> > > quality rack time. For that cost, you >could get well
> > > over 1 year of rack time every single day if you wanted
> > > to >spend that much. >
> > > >Some people think that after you purchase the equipment
> > > yourself and pass >the lab, then you can resell the
> > > equipment to get your investment back, but
> > > >just how much do you think those 2600's and 3600's will
> > > be work in another
> > > >year or two?
> > > >
> > > >Whatever you decide, good luck with your studies.
> > > >
> > > >Cheers,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Tony Schaffran
> > > >Network Analyst
> > > >CCIE #11071
> > > >CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > > >NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> > > >
> > > >www.cconlinelabs.com
> > > >Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of >Martin
> > > Kiefer >Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:46 AM
> > > >To: ananth.sarma@gmail.com
> > > >Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >Subject: RE: LAb Equipment ...
> > > >
> > > >Hi.
> > > >
> > > >Well, I think the lab is overprized, the 3640 routers
> > > are old and you need
> > > >at least 3 more routers in your POD for backbone
> > > routers, and (as one >mentioned) one for frame-relay
> > > switch. The FR switch can easily be one of >the BB
> > > routers. >
> > > >I would look on ebay for some 2600 XM routers. They can
> > > be found at a >reasonable price going from 500 USD and
> > > up to around a 1000 USD depends on
> > > >the amount of cards and memory.
> > > >
> > > >Then of course you will need 4 switches in a
> > > combination of 3550 and 3560s.
> > > >The 3560s might be the biggest post on the budget, for
> > > some reason ebay.com
> > > >3560s costs a fortune compared to the ones in Europe.
> > > >
> > > >Finally you need the terminal server, cables and maybe
> > > wic-cards but all of
> > > >those things can be found cheap on ebay.
> > > >
> > > >You will probably end up paying a bit more for the lab
> > > than the 10K. But >you
> > > >will have a better and more up to date lab and when you
> > > are done with it, >it's more easy to sell again so you
> > > won't lose that much money on it. >
> > > >One last thing to have in mind, you can actually get a
> > > lot of rack time for
> > > >those 10K out there. Just look around and you won't
> > > have all the problems >with getting the gear.
> > > >
> > > >Best regards
> > > >Martin Kiefer
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > > ananth.sarma@gmail.com
> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 1:43 AM
> > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > Subject: LAb Equipment ...
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I recently attended a CCIE bootcamp of 1 month long
> > > > > in India which was nice.
> > > > > One good thing is that they allow us to practise on
> > > the pods during the
> > > > > nights indefinitely FOC!!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am planning to buy a POD to practice until my lab
> > > > > exam. ( 6 months from now!)
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you give me some good suggestions in
> > > > > selecting/buying the Routers and Switches?
> > > > >
> > > > > I found a good deal in E-bay costing $10k which
> > > > > includes around 6 x 3640, 2 x 3560, 2x 3550, 1 x
> > > > > 26xx Access Server along with cables and ports.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it a worthwhile investment? I have heard about
> > > > > on-line labs but never tried them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tough I enjoyed the bootcamp, needed to brush up on
> > > > > some areas and I was slow on the labs. I tend to
> > > > > slow down while focusing on the solutions mainly on
> > > > > Route-maps creation and Redistribution. Your
> > valuable suggestions are welcome. How do I speed up on the
> > > > lab? >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ananth G Sarma
> > > > >
> > > > >
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