From: jslauer@hotmail.com
Date: Sun Feb 25 2007 - 12:55:51 ART
NMC are big checklist proponents; I think that's probably one of the main
things I took from attending their classes, I think they really work if you
use them right and are honest with yourself when compiling them and checking
them off. When i REALLY started to use them, they were most helpful. I think
they have some examples of how to do them on their website but I'm not
certain where anymore.
Josh
CCIE #16024
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darby Weaver" <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
To: "Elias Chari" <elias.chari@gmail.com>; <Daniel_Steyn@dell.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Final checks
> While I do not disagree with building a network in an
> incremental approach and verifying as you go.
>
> I thank the Brians for ensuring I learned from them on
> this note...
>
> I'll tell you I honestly make checklists for mostly
> everything from when I get up in the morning to how I
> plan on spending my day.
>
> I highly recommend going over everything and if one
> has one hour left in one's lab, then I promise you, it
> can be an entire hour better spent going over
> everything.
>
> So...
>
> While one does not need a checklist and may think it
> over-rated, that is fine, however, if you find that
> your score you think you should have does not match
> the score you actually see in your score report...
>
> Then you will have to be the one to ask yourself why.
>
> Also, maybe I've spent too long worrying about this
> stuff...
>
> But does anyone else still ask themselves whether link
> is Point-to-Point or Point-Multipoint or questions
> like is it Broadcast, Multicast, or Unicast... etc.
>
> I find myself doing these Caslow-ish things...
>
> More often all of the time...
>
> Nope, I will be doing checklists till I get my digits
> and beyond... I will err on the side of caution.
>
>
> --- Elias Chari <elias.chari@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think sometimes too much emphasis is put on check
>> lists. The only think
>> you have to do is verify each task before you move
>> on to the next. If you
>> know how to do that you don't need to have a long
>> check list. You should
>> check each task objective against your
>> configuration. Use show and debugging
>> (where necessary) commands to achieve this. This is
>> your checklist...-)
>>
>> The only mental notes that I made were voip ports
>> (never managed to find
>> them on the univercd) and remember to send the
>> community to BGP peers, if
>> required.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Elias
>> CCIE#17354
>>
>>
>> On 2/25/07, Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Do you have a script to for the Switch Macro?
>> >
>> > Do you have a list of show commands for your QoS?
>> >
>> > Do you have a list of show commands and have a
>> > procedure to check you Multicast configuration?
>> >
>> > Did you double-check your BGP?
>> >
>> > Did you verify your frame relay has no inarp?
>> >
>> > Did you check your Switches for Root, Paths,
>> values,
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > Did you check your neighbor relationships for each
>> > routing protcol?
>> >
>> > Did you check whatever you may have been asked to
>> do
>> > with regards to NAT, Telnet, SSH, DRP, WCCP, etc.?
>> >
>> > If you have virtual links are they working, if
>> they
>> > are supposed to authenticate, are they? If you
>> were
>> > asked to authnticate on a per link basis - does
>> this
>> > work, how about a per area basis?
>> >
>> > If you were asked to SPAN/RSPAN is it working, how
>> > about any port security?
>> >
>> > Let's see, if your were asked to Bridge, does it
>> work?
>> >
>> > If you were asked to use IP SLA, did you meet the
>> > requirements asked?
>> >
>> > If you were asked to match a table for anything or
>> a
>> > certain show output, does yours match as
>> requested?
>> >
>> > If you were asked to ensure a certain value for
>> > anything in particular does it match?
>> >
>> > If you were asked to restrict or allow certain
>> routes,
>> > even or odd, or as specified, did you meet the
>> > requirements?
>> >
>> > Are you prepared to ask the proctor about any
>> > ambiguities?
>> >
>> > If you were asked to perform some type of shaping
>> or
>> > policing or even queueing are your results what is
>> > expected? How about the default class? Did you
>> > specify it? Why/Why not? Did you ask yourself the
>> > question?
>> >
>> > If you were asked to change any values or DSCP
>> values
>> > do you know how?
>> >
>> > If you have tunnels, did you watch for recursive
>> > routing?
>> >
>> > If you had to change any timers or metrics, does
>> > everything match in the AS or domain in question?
>> >
>> > You did not forget about Split-Horizon anywhere,
>> did
>> > you?
>> >
>> >
>> > If you are given a chance to call one person - a
>> > lifeline? Who would it be?
>> >
>> > If you are asked not to hum... are you prepared to
>> > work without humming?
>> >
>> > Hmmm...
>> >
>> > I'm sure I missed something...
>> >
>> > But these are at least some of the things I think
>> of
>> > on most of my labs... these days...
>> >
>> > In reality, I take the lab questions and try to
>> > approach them from a layer by layer layer basis?
>> >
>> > Does this help you at all?
>> >
>> > Remember your checklist vs. anyone's lab - any
>> time /
>> > any place.
>> >
>> > Whether you are sleepy, cold, or hot... mad or
>> > happy...
>> >
>> > Be ready for whatever may come at you through
>> those
>> > doors at the testing facility of your choice...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- Daniel_Steyn@Dell.com wrote:
>> >
>> > > Say a prayer
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
>> > > [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>> > > David A Goddard
>> > > Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 8:52 AM
>> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > > Subject: Final checks
>> > >
>> > > Hello group,
>> > >
>> > > I'm about to take a shot soon and am in cram
>> mode.
>> > > A quick search of
>> > > the archives didn't reveal what I'm looking for.
>> > > Here it is:
>> > >
>> > > What are your final checks you perform during
>> the
>> > > lab exam. In other
>> > > words, you've accomplished all tasks, and
>> *think*
>> > > everything is good to
>> > > go. You've got an hour to burn before your time
>> is
>> > > up - what do you do?
>> > > I'm trying to compile a quick hit list of what I
>> > > should look at. Here is
>> > > what I've come up with thus far:
>> > >
>> > > 1) Ping scripts
>> > > a) IGP
>> > > b) EGP
>> > >
>> > > 2) Debug ip routing - check to see if any routes
>> are
>> > > flapping
>> > >
>> > > 3) Verify all access-lists have 'deny all' or
>> > > 'permit all' if needed
>> > >
>> > > 4) Reread and verify lab objectives to insure
>> > > thoroughness and accuracy
>> > >
>> > > What else?
>> > >
>> > > thanks,
>> > > Dave
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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