RE: regrading

From: anthony.sequeira@thomson.com
Date: Thu Feb 22 2007 - 21:59:36 ART


The proctors will tell you that the CURRENT exam is graded through a
combination of computer grading script - and a human proctor.

From what I have gleaned through talking to many at Cisco on the subject
- if the grading script hits your exam and states you scored a 96% -
there is no way a human bothers to look at your exam. If the script says
you scored a 78% - they will look for sure trying to pass you.

As to how the computer can grade accurately - I imagine at times the
script is looking at show command results, while at other times it is
looking for specific configuration lines.

Many of us have had the same ugly experience with the lab you described
- "I scored a 0% on such and such a section - NO WAY!" Often times,
believe it or not, we DID manage to misinterpret or misconfigure all
tasks in that section. This is especially easy to do if the second task
DEPENDS upon the first task being configured EXACTLY as that grading
script wants to see it done!

Anthony J. Sequeira
#15626

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Deji Steve-Fagbemi
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 7:26 PM
To: 'Scott Morris'; 'Narbik Kocharians'
Cc: 'Blastmor'; 'Lou Ioanni'; 'BitGossip'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: regrading

Scott,

Is that not saying something about the process of grading the CCIE lab?
It
means that there is no consistency. If you got points that you didn't
have
originally and you lost points that you had originally, then the process
of
grading labs requires some analysis.

I had my first attempt last month and I got 0% for multicast and I am
almost
certain that I completed both tasks in my multicast. Do they use
computers
to grade? If so, how can a computer grade accurately?

If you do not get detailed score reports then how can you challenge your
score if you feel you have passed?

At least if you are at University and you feel that you didn't do as
well as
you hoped, you can apply to the exam board and get some other tutor to
regrade.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:02 PM
To: 'Narbik Kocharians'
Cc: 'Blastmor'; 'Lou Ioanni'; 'BitGossip'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: RE: regrading

Nope, but I got back the points I was irritated for not getting. But I
lost
some other points which kinda pissed me off. But I passed the next
time, so
it wasn't the end of the world.
 
;)

  _____

From: Narbik Kocharians [mailto:narbikk@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:55 PM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: Blastmor; Lou Ioanni; BitGossip; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: regrading

Scott, Did you pass after the regrade?

On 2/22/07, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:

I did not get that on my regrade, but that was also three years ago...

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From: Blastmor [mailto: alextols@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 2:39 PM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: Lou Ioanni; BitGossip; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: regrading

You will receive table with was/now points on each section

2007/2/22, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com>:

You will get a score report, just like the first time around. And you
MAY
see differences in the values.

You will not, however, get any detailed feedback or specific listings of

what you missed.

The score report is only meant to let you know 'areas' that you may need
additional work in, not give you details.

HTH,

Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
smorris@ipexpert.com
http://www.ipexpert.com

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Lou
Ioanni
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 1:08 PM
To: BitGossip; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: regrading

I do not think so. If you fail you will see the percentages of your
score in
all areas tested, but if you regrade (you will pay for that) then they
will
just let you know if you passed or failed (as far as I know).

Loizos Y.
CCIE#10702 R & S

BitGossip <bit.gossip@chello.nl> wrote:
Group,

In case I ask to regrade my lab is it possible that they tell you what I
did

wrong?

I think it will be very useful to know that because I really can't
figure
out myself what I did wrong and I don't want to do it again next time.

Luca.



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