From: Lay, Rob (Robert.Lay@Honeywell.com)
Date: Tue Jan 30 2007 - 05:02:26 ART
Hi Guys,
I'm currently studying for my CCIE in security.
It seems to me as if there is a fundamental assumption that is made of
security experts. Surely, to be able to secure a network (ie the
routing and switching as well as the point devices) you have to have a
pretty expert level of understanding of how it works.
For the security lab, they will be testing 100% of your security
knowledge and your ability to define and configure the security
solutions, however that assumes that you have an expert understanding of
the way the network works, at the end of the day unless the routing
works you don't really have to worry about the security, no-one will be
able to get to your network to attack it!! :-) I guess the difference
in the security lab is that they are not testing 100% of your ability to
configure routing and switching solutions.
I might be wrong but that's the way it seems to me??
Rob Lay CCSP CCNP
Network Engineer
Honeywell Network Services
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: 30 January 2007 00:42
To: 'Marvin Greenlee'; anthony.sequeira@thomson.com; gviquez@desca.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc: security@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Simple question about the new Cisco CCIE LAB blueprint
So does that mean we can live without having deep knowledge of ospf OR
bgp,
but you need one of those to survive? :)
I'd agree, for the R&S exam, it is a "routing" and switching exam...
For
security there are other things demanding more deep focus.
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPexpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPexpert Sr. Technical Instructor
smorris@ipexpert.com
http://www.ipexpert.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Marvin Greenlee
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:51 PM
To: anthony.sequeira@thomson.com; gviquez@desca.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc: security@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Simple question about the new Cisco CCIE LAB blueprint
Since he CCd the security list, I think that he means the new Security
lab.
Routing protocols are NOT really the "heart and soul"
on the new security test. More like a kidney.
Thanks,
Marvin Greenlee
CCIE #12237 (R&S, SP, Sec)
--- anthony.sequeira@thomson.com wrote:
> I would not bother attempting the "new" exam until I considered myself
> possessing "deep" knowledge of routing protocols mentioned on the
> Blueprint.
>
> Routing protocols are still the "heart and soul" of this test. Sure,
> the exam is more vast now with other topic areas such as QoS and
> Security - but you must forget that and become "expert-level"
> with routing and
> switching first.
>
> Just my opinion of course....
>
> Anthony J. Sequeira
> #15626
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Greivin Viquez
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:03 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Cc: security@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Simple question about the new Cisco CCIE LAB blueprint
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> I will have the CCIE LAB test the next May 3th. I am studying
> according to the new blue print however I have a question in regard of
> the routing protocol.
>
> I do have experience on routing and switching but not that deep to
> troubleshoot a complex BGP/OSPF network.
>
> My question is, with the new rules ?Do I need deep routing knowledge?
> If so ?On what protocols and how deep?
>
> My point of view is, if Cisco will test my knowledge on GRE tunnels
> and network functionality, I must have routing troubleshooting
> knowledge but not BGP, OSPF deep knowledge.
>
> Please advice.
>
>
>
>
> Greivin Vmquez
> System Engineer
>
> DESCA-S&S Centroamerica
> Tel: (506) 586-6464
> Fax:(506) 586-6590
> gviquez@desca.com
> www.desca.com
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