From: Rocco R21 (roccor21@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Jan 27 2007 - 13:19:50 ART
Congrats...hard work pays off!!
>From: "Nick Griffin" <nick.jon.griffin@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: "Nick Griffin" <nick.jon.griffin@gmail.com>
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>Subject: The Road to 17381
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>First and foremost I want to say thank you. Thanks to the Paul for the
>list,
>as well as the usual guys. The guys at IE, you have great products and you
>are very knowledgeable, thank you. Scott Morris, thanks for answering my
>questions and everyone elses. It's great that you guys are active on this
>list. Anthony, your network world article help to make this CCIE thing make
>sense to people that aren't familiar with it around me. It really showed
>what it takes. Victor Cappuccio, genius! You will be a CCIE without a
>doubt,
>multiple CCIE's. Thank you for motivating me, and really helping me
>understand this stuff, you are no doubt a master. Sarah Kent, Dave Schulz,
>Leigh Nash, Wayne Downing, and everyone else that I am forgetting. Thank
>you!
>
>I had to get my thanks out of the way, for those of you interested in what
>I
>used to get there, please read on.
>
>Well, it officially started about 1 year ago in January. While working
>dedicated on miscellaneous Cisco products for the last 5 years I finally
>decided to get serious. I booked my first attempted for March 2006, I
>studied on average about 4 hours a night, at that time particularly using
>NMC Do It Labs. I never did much with Frame Relay at the time, so the
>tricks
>we are all so familiar with were kicking my butt. By my first date, I still
>had issues with binary acl's, so I was nowhere near ready, but I finished
>the lab and gave it my best shot. I scheduled my next attempt for May.
>Preparing primarily with Internetwork Expert Labs. Again I fell short, got
>hung up on some things and couldn't get past my problems. I rushed this
>attempt due to projects at work knowing that unless I worked and studied
>24x7 I wouldn't have much time to study. Along came miscellaneous IPT
>projects, CS-Mars, Clean Access, etc etc. Stuff that makes it hard to stay
>on track for the R/S. So I pretty much took a break from studies from May
>to
>October. I began ramping up for my Dec 19th date in the beginning of
>October. Aware of the Nov 13th changes I pressed on working on really
>understanding switching, and how the new topology could really change
>things. Trying to block out the rumors on G/S with the lab changes, and
>people failing I went out for my best performance in Dec on the new format.
>All I can say about the lab was wow, what a change from May to Dec! I did
>well, so I stayed on top of it and booked January 26th, which happened to
>be
>the time, try #4.
>
>For those of you pursuing, I will say what worked for me, and echo probably
>a bit what others have said. If your on a budget, which most of us are, IE
>Class on Demand is a must. I went through this thing end to end at least 3
>times, and other sections more than that. This was great because I could
>never afford a boot camp as much as I would have liked to have gone. IE
>Core
>workbook was great as well, I purchased this after failing my first
>attempt.
>IE Mock lab workshop, I got a great deal on this class, I took it two weeks
>before my last lab, but it sure helped to keep my speed up. This was
>probably the only real labs I did end to end my last month of study. Most
>of
>the other time was spent studying things in isolation. NMC DoIT and NMC
>Checkit are great. I find NMC wording nearly as vague as the real deal,
>from
>a difficulty standpoint these things are over the top. I learned a great
>deal about redistribution from these guys. Their Check IT labs have the
>best
>results you can get. People say you don't have to buy everything from every
>vendor, but I believe it is very key to use multiple vendors. DO not get
>accustomed to only one vendor, or you will be unpleasantly surprised on
>your
>lab attempt, especially if you learn by lab. Learn to understand the
>technologies.
>
>About the actual lab I passed. When I went in this time, I went in with the
>mindset I am Cisco's customer and they need to support me at least during
>the $1250 bout. Over my last 3 attempts, I probably asked 6 questions in
>total. They will not give you the answers, if you word it correctly they
>will give you valuable feedback. By lunch time I was 90% complete with my
>lab, I had completed every task by 1:35 PM. I spent the entire afternoon
>verifying EVERYTHING over and over again. Reloading, TCL scripts, show
>commands, anything I could think of. I even removed my "ip rcmd" commands
>at
>the end. I answered everything I could. I got to a section where I was a
>bit
>intimidated, so I decided to grab the things I thought of as easy. This
>would give me much needed points, while also making sure if I ran into a
>problem that I would battle with it for and hour or two only to realize I
>still have 40 more points to complete. This comes back to having a game
>plan, you have to have one to pass this thing. I also read the recent post
>from Alex De Gruter on questions to proctors. This made up my mind, I was
>going to clarify as much as possible. I worked through eveything I could
>and
>went to verify. I had a list of 10-15 questions that I took up at one time
>and quickly went through the list. Asking questions with their is
>ambigbuity
>is a must. Don't be scared, go ask, it's $1250 bucks. There wasn't one
>thing
>on this lab left un-touched. Being honest with myself, there were some
>things I was about 90% sure they were right. I totaled up everything minus
>these, and felt I was at 92 points. Brian Dennis gave me a great idea
>regarding building this list, it's on their free COD presentation on their
>site. I used this my last 2 times. It really helps if you stick with it.
>
>In summary:
>
>IE Class on Deman
>IE Core Workbook
>IE version 4.0
>IE Mock Lab Workshop
>NMC Do IT
>NMC Check IT
>NMC FR COD
>CCIE Assessor
>IP Expert Workbook ver 8.0
>Safari online subscription, why by all those cisco books?
>www.gigavelocity.com flexibile/affordable labs/ great equipment and support
>www.racktimerentals.com great equipment
>countless hours of study and lab time
>
>Thanks to everyone. Don't ever give up, you will never forgive yourself.
>Obtain what you desire. If you put in the time on Cisco, you deserve it.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Nick Griffin
>CCIE 17381
>
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