From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Jan 18 2007 - 10:09:10 ART
I agree with Petr.
As I prepare for my third shot at the title:
1. I'm working on speed for the Core items (my
definition):
a. Bridging, Switching Topics, and Frame Relay
b. L3 Interior Routing Protocols
c. Basically the bottom 55 points.
(I do add BGP to my list as well for about an
additional 10 points or so).
My whole goal here is to be as completely comfortable
configuring mostly any conifgurable option possible as
quickly as possible. In order to achieve this, I take
a given lab scenario, and work through it literally
until I have it down pat and then work the next lab -
again, I have most of the concepts down now and am
trying to build speed on these topics.
I have about 6 more weeks at this stage.
2. The non-Core items are next and true I have
experienced difficulty here in the past. For me these
topics are:
a. IPv6 (a stronger topic and straight forward)
b. Multicast
c. QoS
d. IOS Features
e. Security
For points, I expect to see about 8-12 on any given
area and 5-6 on either Multicast or IPv6. Given that
I have scored about 50% or less in these topics in the
past on any given lab, I know I needed more work in
each specific area. For this I took a different
approach:
I started looking at the debug / show commands for
these topics with the goal of watching the
conversation in each protocol on a step-by-step basis.
Yes a little more time consuming, but if anyone ever
watched a guy named Brad M. go to work on a lab, while
he was making it look like so much swiss cheese you'd
be a believer as well.
As an example, I was working through troubleshooting
IPSec connections yesterday and walking through the
process of using a step-by-step debugging process, I
was able to quickly, efficiently, and effctively solve
and an otherwise complex routing problem.
So being able to nail the Core topics in the lab 100%
and quite quickly, ought to leave me plenty of time to
deal with the other non-Core issues that I
traditionally had trouble with in the past.
Point Analysis:
95% of 65 points = ~61 points or so
50% of 35 points = ~17 points
==============================
78 points
However, using the advanced debugging techniques, I
ought to be able to achieve:
100% of 65 points = 65 points
80% of 35 points = 28 points
=============================
93 points
Naturally the math has no indication of actual
performance in the lab, but I kind of use it to gauge
my overall readiness.
Typically when I did practice labs from NMC and IE, I
always seemed to think I complete X% and almost
invariably scored about 10 points less than the amount
of points I actually thought I had completed
successfully.
I will admit I was not using debugging and it has been
2 lab attempts ago and about 8 months since I tried a
practice lab.
I am going to probably try some more labs before my
date in March of this year.
Remember what Bruce Caslow always says:
"Truth by Debug"
Learn to understand what each protocol is actually
trying to achieve and what steps are necessary to
complete each conversation.
--- Petr Lapukhov <petr@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
> As I see it, IPv6, QoS, Mcast, Security, IOS
> Features are still
> considered "non-core" topics :)
>
> To the list of core topics I would add "STP and
> 3550/3560 features".
>
> However, from what I've seen, most people are having
> problems with
> non-core stuff. The biggest challenges are tough
> wording and lack or
> in-depth understanding.
>
> Here are my suggestions:
>
> Practice in speed for core topics. You should be
> able to finish all of them
> in 2-3 hours and attain full L3 connectivity, to
> have more spare time left
> for non-core tasks.
>
> For non-core topics, try to gain an in-depth
> understanding, by walking
> through various technology scenarios, reading
> whitepapers, and building
> good DoCD navigation skills.
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Petr Lapukhov, CCIE #16379 (R&S/Security)
> petr@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
>
> 2007/1/18, Sergey Golovanov
> <sergey.golovanov@iementor.com>:
> >
> > What about multicast, ipv6, and qos?
> >
> > ---------------------
> > Sergey Golovanov, CCIEx5
> (R&S/Security/Voice/Service Provider/Storage)
> > "Please, don't ask me for my ccie #, there are
> reasons why I can't release
> > it"
> > ieMentor Instructor and Content Developer
> > http://www.iementor.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "John Jones" <acer0001@gmail.com>
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Sent: 1/17/07 11:43 PM
> > Subject: Core Topics
> >
> > I have a list of core topics I have been studying
> for R&S. Please let me
> > know if there are any more that I should add to
> the list. From what I
> > understand, this will cover 40-60 points of the
> lab exam.
> >
> > - OSPF
> > - EIGRP
> > - BGP
> > - RIP
> > - VLANs
> > - IP
> > - Frame Relay
> > - PPP
> > - Ethernet
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>
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