Re: IE online classroom vs. in person

From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Sun Dec 31 2006 - 22:31:59 ART


Erin and anyone else who may care,

I used their COD, it was very well done and maintained
my attention. I thought the Brians did an excellent
job.

Now recall the COD teaches the technologies and is
founded on building a firm foundation. It
accomplishes that goal.

I did attend the Mock Labs and I found the Brians to
be quite engaging.

Most of the Mock Labs is geared towards actually doing
labs.

They spend 2-4 Hours Reviewing the lab material with
you. Just as if you were in a real class.

I can say this since I also attended NMC-1/NMC-2. At
NMC-2 they followed pretty much the same schedule and
routine as the Brians.

The Brians only allow 8 hours per exam - very strict.

The NMC-2 class allowed us to work till 10pm per lab
as I recall.

Both Vendors - thoroughly covered the labs and
particulars and individual questions per lab.

At NMC-2 one has 3 instructors to ask and at least 2
are always on premise.

Val is a routing and switching god and is usually 100%
available for one on one.

Bruce or Bob teach the materials and handle the review
of each lab each day at NMC-2.

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Final Analysis:

Both formats are quite excellent in terms of Mock Labs
and I would say that how you score on these labs, will
pretty much mirror your actual lab performance.

Now the other shoe.

To get to the point where you are ready for the
classroom or distance learning option COD:

1. You should be a CCNP, 2 Years experience, and have
at least passed the lab.

2. The Brians at IE cover each technology in depth.
Great for learning technology or review.

3. NMC covers a few timeless issues that you simply
must master, such as BGP, QoS, Cat Qos, Multicast,
IPv6, etc. And of course they cover the material
presented in the first lab and the last lab.

Hmmm...

So the 80 Hour COD is perhaps more comprehensive on
all topics.

The NMC-1 is excellent for familiarizing and
exhausting things like a strategy, Golden Moment, and
the problem areas that most people fail with.
I'd say know your L2 and L3 IGPs coming in and be
familiar with BGP, QoS, and Multicast.

--- "Erin Brown (erbrown)" <erbrown@cisco.com> wrote:

> Morning folks,
>
> I am planning to attend the IE end-to-end CCIE class
> and had a question
> considering the online classroom option.
> Unfortunately the existing
> schedule for in person classes does not fit with my
> current lab
> schedule, but there are a few virtual classroom
> options that do. My
> question is has anyone here attended the online
> version of the CCIE
> routing and switching advanced technologies class
> and Mock lab classes
> and if so how would you rate them? Is the material
> easy to follow in a
> virtual setting and is the delivery reliable and
> easy to follow or
> should I push my date again (not sure this is an
> option with my boss)
> and go for the in person sessions?
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> Erin
>
>



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