From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Tue Dec 12 2006 - 22:24:39 ART
I didn't think we went to the lab because of the menu choices! :)
However, Brazil has some awesome churascaria's around where you can eat
really well! Not to mention other scenic things (particularly by beaches!).
Most candidates don't eat much anyway...
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
smorris@ipexpert.com
http://www.ipexpert.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Gabriel Nunes
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 7:24 PM
To: Brad Ellis
Cc: loc.pham@comcast.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: RE: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
hahaha
I don`t want to be like my customer which complains about everything, but
the food here in Brazil is terrible! hahaha
It is a cold and dry sandwich... But usually I am not hungry at this time...
hehehe ;-)
On 12/12/06, Brad Ellis <brad@ccbootcamp.com> wrote:
>
> The CCIE team does care. I chat with them regularly and tehy like to
> make sure the candidates are happy with the lab - granted the
> candidate might not be too happy after they fail, but I know the CCIE
> team wants the candidates to feel as though the lab exam was fair (and
> I'd hope challenging). I haven't been to the lab in over five years
> so I can't comment on the conditions of it now, but back in the day it
> was comfortable and the food in the cafeteria was good. I'll be
> taking my voice lab exam for the first time in Jan 9th at San Jose so
> I'll be able to comment more on the conditions then (now if I can just
> find time to actually study).
>
> As far as assessor goes, what do you expect from an automated tool?
> It's cheap and it gives you basic results. I think the price they
> charge is pretty fair for what you get. If you don't think so, then
> don't use it. :)
>
> -b
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <loc.pham@comcast.net>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:44 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>
>
> Well said.
> There is a 2 weeks feedback on all tested lab for any reason, we
> are allow to complaint and give any constructive suggestion to the
> ccielab program.
> For me, I note that there is no flat-panel, under-table keyboard
> and ask the ccie-lab for upgrade. Why not: I am stuck there for 8 hrs,
> they need to make it comfortable as possible , don't you think ?!!
> The thing is, voice to the correct channel, and , some days, it may
> get fix !
> lP
> ------------------------------------------ Your said -
> RE: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ? Scott Morris Reply to sender to
> list # From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com> # To: "'Blastmor'"
> <alextols@gmail.com>, "'Mike O'" <mikeeo@msn.com> # Cc: "'ccie >>
> Cisco certification'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com> # Subject: RE: anybody
> passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
> # Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:44:49 -0500 # Organization: Emanon.com,
> Inc.
> # Reply-to: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com> # Thread-index:
> AcceJMEPAU3y7I09TkOU9z1TQ0qSqQAADkhA
>
>
> So allow me to state it in a different way... Sitting here and
> complaining back and forth does NOT solve the problem.
>
> Yeah, it doesn't help for someone to tell you to study more, because
> everyone knows that! But instead of commisserating with others around
> here, each and every one of you who has had mathematical or other
> difficulties needs to TELL CISCO ABOUT IT!
>
> If nobody says anything, they (upper management) may not know there
> are flaws in the system. If many people start (professionally)
> complaining about similar experiences, someone will say "There must be
> a problem, let's explore this."
>
> If nobody is willing to take this on, just what kind of expectation
> can you have of anything getting better?
>
> Yes, if all the frequency of this stuff occurring is increasing, it sucks.
> Sucks bigtime. But if nobody expresses opinions about this to those
> who matter and have a stake in making things better, then it doesn't
> serve any purpose other than to make ourselves feel a little better
> that we have found other people in similar situations.
>
> Whether it's the Assessor or the real lab or someone's practice labs,
> sometimes sh#*$ happens. Help make it right.
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
> IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> smorris@ipexpert.com
> http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of Blastmor
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 1:10 PM
> To: Mike O
> Cc: ccie >> Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: anybody passed the CCIE r/s exam ?
>
> Guys, that's enough to say shit and common words like "Study hard and
> everything will be ok"!
> It's really annoying. Everybody knows it and tries to go through the
> technologies as much as possible in depth. But the cases like which
> happened to Gabriel become more and more frequent. And this is not a
> candidate failure as we see but Cisco's. Recently I took the Assessor
> and Autoverify said to me that I have missed RIP completely. That was
> lie! On the contrary RIP configuration was completely OK. Autoverify
> said that I missed 'router rip, ver 2' and so on....
> Is it candidate failure too or what?
> I hate this fu...ing tool cause it can play evil joke with me.
>
> --
> SY, Alexey
>
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