inter vpn multicast and inter AS/MD multicast

From: Koen Zeilstra (koen@koenzeilstra.com)
Date: Wed Nov 01 2006 - 07:00:25 ART


Hi Group,

I have 2 interesting (I hope) multicast issues.

1. inter VPN multicast

Imagine a MPLS/VPN based network. In short: Cisco supports MVPN's by
encapsulating customer traffic in multicast GRE tunnels on the PE's.
Exchanging mcast traffic with the internet or with other customers is not
an option according to Cisco:

[quote]
Currently, only a single MVRF is supported per customer.
This limitation precludes the customer also receiving Internet or any
other outside domain's Multicast traffic.
[/quote]

Did anyone succeed in finding a solution for this? Unicast traffic is
'leaked' by importing and exporting RD's via RT's.
Maybe such a solution can be created for multicast as well?
Or maybe another workaround can be found by using an extra router which
participates in both VPN's. In the case of the senders being located all
over the different customer sites this would result in an extra router for
each PE, which is not really an option.

2. inter-AS multicast

Cisco's inter-AS multicast solution is based on RP syncing state
information via MSDP. In most cases an AS is also a multicast domain. The
question is: What determines the domain borders. Is that the absence of a
PIM neighborship relation or the presence of 'ip multicast boundary'. In
most examples I find both 'ip pim sparse-mode' AND 'ip multicast boundary'
present on the interface facing the other AS.
IMHO talking PIM with another AS should not be necessary. Within the AS
and MD (Multicast Domain) PIM exchanges receiver information. Between
AS-es MSDP takes care of this, then why run PIM on border interfaces as
well??

Any thoughts on both points?

btw: Are there plans on creating a CCIE Service Provider list or are those
questions still on-topic within the R&S list?

thanks for your reply!

Cheers,

Koen



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