From: Darby Weaver (darbyweaver@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Oct 20 2006 - 01:48:40 ART
My point exactly.
--- Jojo jojo <barrerj1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> The voice lab has a Cat 6503 so I'm pretty sure they
> can be included in
> other tracks too.
>
> JoJoB
>
> >From: Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: Darby Weaver <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
> >To: Mark Lasarko <mlasarko@co.ba.md.us>,
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >Subject: Re: Studying with four or more switches
> >Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:25:36 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >It should not make much difference - I mean most
> >networks today are following a Cisco's Access -
> >Distribution - Core Design model or some spin-off
> and
> >mostly everyone should have read a SAFE Design
> article
> >by now with newer models like the Enterprise Edge
> and
> >the Server Farm, etc.
> >
> >So...
> >
> >Oh yeah, and CCNP-level books on practical studies
> >include as many as 6 switches...
> >
> >So really...
> >
> >A CCIE should at least be able to top a CCNP...
> >
> >So the biggest issue is cost of a home lab...
> >
> >Personally - I throw in a new switch every time a
> good
> >bargain comes around on ebay... So...
> >
> >I'm surprised the CCIE Lab has not incorporated
> either
> >45xx or 65xx switches by now...
> >
> >Cisco did ask about a CCIE in Switching lately...
> >
> >So who knows...
> >
> >--- Mark Lasarko <mlasarko@co.ba.md.us> wrote:
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I just wanted to say that the first few real
> labs I
> > > ever did included a chain of five switches. I
> still
> > > keep a similar setup for some of my team and
> desktop
> > > support staff whom are heavily involved in
> > > switching, or wish to become so. There are no
> > > routers in this rack, just L2 toys :) It is a
> bit
> > > more elaborate these days in regards to the
> > > hardware, but this is (still) CCNA/CCNP track
> > > material here. I can't imagine a CCIE candidate
> who
> > > has not spent time with 4 (or more) switches
> trying
> > > to break stuff???
> > >
> > > I tried to joke a bit in response to this in a
> > > previous post, but honestly they could throw a
> 5500
> > > in the mix and I would welcome it. Why? because
> this
> > > journey has as much to do with experience and
> being
> > > able to make sense of what would seem
> otherwise...
> > >
> > > Indeed, there are some new features on the
> horizon,
> > > but not many that do not exist on the (other |
> > > additional) rack gear you'll see on lab day if
> you
> > > have the basics down cold.
> > >
> > > Furthermore, I know of at least two vendors who
> > > consistently use examples of more than two
> switches,
> > > and have so for many years. It goes back to
> > > understanding.
> > >
> > > This may be the furthest I have ever gone out of
> my
> > > way to overstate the obvious, but when
> conjecture,
> > > speculation, and "odds" defy the very logic we
> need,
> > > it is time to go back to the basics.
> > >
> > > R&S or S&W - does it matter which comes first?
> > > Let us embrace this and not let it throw us for
> a
> > > loop.
> > > (no pun intended)
> > >
> > > I hope the proctors are enjoying our banter :)
> > >
> > > Peace out y'all.
> > > ~M
> > >
> > >
>
>_______________________________________________________________________
> > > Subscription information may be found at:
> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >
>
>_______________________________________________________________________
> >Subscription information may be found at:
> >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
>
>
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Wed Nov 01 2006 - 07:29:06 ART