From: Victor Cappuccio (cvictor@protokolgroup.com)
Date: Wed Oct 18 2006 - 19:36:52 ART
Brian, that is a BIGGGG relive
Thanks!!!
Victor.-
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Brian McGahan [mailto:bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com]
Enviado el: Miircoles, 18 de Octubre de 2006 05:36 p.m.
Para: Victor Cappuccio; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Asunto: RE: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH ALREADY
Victor,
That's one way to put it :) Like Brian Dennis said we are in
the process of updating IEWB-RS based on our new topology with four
switches. Don't worry though, all of our customers will receive
electronic updates free of charge per our Investment Protection program:
http://www.internetworkexpert.com/investmentprotection.htm. More
information will be available as the release date approaches.
HTH,
Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593 (R&S/SP)
bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Victor Cappuccio
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:24 PM
> To: 'Joshua Lauer'; 'Ben Holko'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH ALREADY
>
> Would that not make all R&S WB's in the market obsolete??
> See 2 switches are a different world than having 4 switches (yes my
bet
> continues to be having 4 at the lab, but I would be wrong)
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] En nombre de
> Joshua
> Lauer
> Enviado el: Miircoles, 18 de Octubre de 2006 06:04 a.m.
> Para: Ben Holko; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Asunto: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH ALREADY
>
> Wow...a voice of reason, shouldn't really matter on
> whether the switch's are 3560, 3750, 3550, etc....or
> how many. know the features and know the basics and
> you should be more than fine for the lab. Just my
> 02 cents.
>
>
>
>
> JL
>
>
> Joshua Lauer
>
> CCIE#16024
>
> CCNP, CCSP, CCDP, CCIP, INFOSEC
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Holko" <ben.holko@globalcenter.net.au>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:02 AM
> Subject: RE: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH
> ALREADY
>
> > ...I'm not sure why people seem to care so much
> > whether it is 2 or 4....
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > sabrina pittarel
> > Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2006 4:18 PM
> > To: Darby Weaver; Sean C.; Narbik Kocharians
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH
> > ALREADY
> >
> > Darby,
> > if you read my email yesterday it was Tom who told
> > me people will start
> > seeing 4 switches in the lab.
> > I'm not sure why people refuse to believe.
> > Sabrina
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Darby Weaver
> > <darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
> > To: Sean C. <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>; Narbik
> > Kocharians
> > <narbikk@gmail.com>
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Sent: Tuesday,
> > October 17, 2006 9:05:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH
> > ALREADY
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Sorry to see my name in one of the quotes.
> >
> > Nowhere does it
> > state "4" Switching. In the U.S.
> > version of English the word "replacing"
> > means to use
> > one in lieu of the other.
> >
> > Now by Maurilio Gorito's comment - it
> > suggests one may
> > see one of each (3560 and 3550 - as an example)
> > for a time in one lab or
> > the other.
> >
> > Now, I'm going to RTP this Friday and Tom, who
> > works for Maurilio in
> > some sense, will be there - most likely.
> >
> > Tom configures the
> > equipment to be deployed in the
> > CCIE Labs worldwide.
> >
> > I would think he "might"
> > have a clue about such
> > things.
> >
> > But if it were me:
> >
> > I have 2 3550's today in
> > my most update rack and I
> > will have two and only 2 3560's in my rack after
> > the the Novemeber
> > turnover. Which for me if I do not pass the lab
> > on the 20th of October,
> > the 21st of October will be MY effective date to
> > start working with
> > 3560's.
> >
> > For everyone else, read the thread - people are
> > jibing at and joking
> > about it. i.e. This is a big joke.
> >
> > There are 2 and only 2 switches until you read it
> > plainly on Cisco's
> > Website. In which case, you will likely have at
> > least 6 months to
> > adjust yourself and your own rack accordingly.
> >
> > Now when you
> > see InternetworkExpert's Bill of
> > Materials reading 4 switches. It is likely
> > because they already have 2
> > 3550's and will likely keep them and will also
> > have 3560's (qty 2). The
> > student can pick and choose - correct me (Brian
> > and
> > Brian) if I
> > speak out of turn. I don't work for them - BTW.
> >
> > Understand the
> > 3550 is being outdated by Cisco - why
> > would they leave it on the rack???
> >
> > Use
> > the tremendous brain power you each have to read
> > English.
> > ==============================
> >
> > Personally even if I see a 3560 on the rack - I
> > gather I will be doing
> > the same things as I did on the 3550.
> >
> > Cisco has to
> > go through a process like everyone else.
> >
> > They do it this way for the routers
> > - why would they
> > not for the switches?
> >
> > I mean - had I not spent a bundle on
> > updating my
> > equipment.
> >
> > I'd just use 2514's on 12.2.17T to study with and
> > a pair of 3550's and I
> > feel I'd do pretty good on any given lab.
> >
> > When I studied
> > using the Mock Labs with the Brians a
> > few month back - the code on the routers was not
> > the latest... But I
> > learned what I needed to know just the same.
> >
> > You
> > can do quite a bit... or you can keep up with the
> > Jones's...
> >
> > You decide.
> >
> > For
> > me the lab is passable, even if it takes more than
> > one attempt.
> >
> > They simply
> > ask questions from a body of knowledge
> > they listed to be studied.
> >
> > That is
> > all...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- "Sean C." <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> What's
> > "...not correct ..."? Where on the Cisco
> >> website does it state what
> >> will
> > be the total number of switches?
> >>
> >> Mind you, just because it states that it
> > will be
> >> replacing the model of switch
> >> is independent of what the total
> > number of switches
> >> will be.
> >>
> >> All you can be suggesting is that what
> > Gavin posted
> >> from Tong Ma was
> >> fraudulent.
> >> Also, what Scott was
> > fraudulent:
> >>
> > http://shop.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200609/msg01279.html
> >>
> >> If you want to stay prepared for only 2
> >> switches - then you "go for
> >> it"
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Narbik Kocharians
> >> To: Sean C
> >>
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:56 PM
> >>
> > Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH
> >> ALREAD
> >>
> >>
> >> That's
> > all i can say, if you think CIsco's web
> >> site is not correct then go
> >> for it
> > and prep up for four switches.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/17/06, Sean C
> > <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> Wha?? I don't need to read the link
> > you
> >> provided - even if I did, because
> >> of the link's ambiguity, one could
> > only 'assume'.
> >>
> >> Like I wrote at the end of my last email - if
> >> I
> >>
> > walked into the lab
> >> sometime in mid-November, I expect to see 4
> >> switches.
> > The email from Tong Ma
> >> validates that thinking - ASSUMING Tong's email
> >>
> > wasn't doctored (which I don't
> >> believe Gavin did in anyway).
> >>
> >>
> > Unfortunately, your last gripe "It's
> >> unbelievable" is, in fact,
> >>
> > BELIEVABLE, simply because there is wrong
> >> information being posted out
> > there.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Narbik Kocharians
> >>
> > To: Sean C.
> >> Cc: Brad Ellis ; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Sent:
> > Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:57 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE
> > R&S Pre
> >> ENOUGH ALREADY
> >>
> >>
> >> Let's not assume anymore, here PLEASE
> > READ IT
> >> AND TELL ME YOUR
> >> INTERPRETENTION. It's unbeleivable
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/#rsnewlabequip
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/16/06, Sean C.
> >> <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> > Yes, but Brad, (and I write this
> >> respectfully) - I think there is
> >> some
> >>
> > hesitation (or at least 2nd guessing) when
> >> we find conflicting
> >> information
> >> like what is posted below.
> >>
> >> "Yes, just two switches. The
> > other rumors
> >> about four switches
> >> are/were
> >> incorrect.
> >>
> > thanks,
> >> Brad Ellis"
> >>
> >>
> > http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200610/msg00121.html
> >>
> >>
> > Then, a few posts later...
> >>
> >> To: Gavin Lawson
> >> Subject:
> > Switches in the Lab
> >> Please include the following line in all
> >>
> > replies.
> >> Tracking number: CT20061002_0000000312
> >> Hello
> > Gavin,
> >> Yes there will be 4 switches in the lab
> >> after the November
> > upgrade and
> >> it
> >> will be a combination of 3550 & 3560 but
> >> we are
> > not releasing the
> >> numbers of
> >> each type being used.
> >>
> > Regards,
> >> Tong Ma
> >> CCIE Program
> >>
> >>
> > http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200610/msg00134.html
> >>
> >> I
> > recognize the number of switches is a
> >> different 'thread' then the
> >> model of
> >> switches. But still, the reason there
> >> maybe some
> >> misinformation
> > is
> >> because
> >> of statements like the ones above.
> >>
> >> Again,
> > I write this respectfully,
> >> Sean
> >>
> >> PS - my $$ is on there
> > will be 4 switches in
> >> the lab.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> > From: "Brad Ellis" < brad@ccbootcamp.com>
> >> To: "Victor Cappuccio" <
> >>
> > cvictor@protokolgroup.com>; "Shamin"
> >> <ccie.xpert@gmail.com>; "ali
> > usmani" <
> >> alihassan80@yahoo.com>
> >> Cc: "Brian Dennis"
> >>
> > <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>;
> >> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >>
> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:30 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Lab Equipment
> > for CCIE R&S Pre
> >> ENOUGH ALREADY!
> >>
> >>
> >> lovely...lets keep the
> > rumors going! the
> >> 3550s WILL BE REMOVED!!!
> >> YES!
> >> They will be!
> > They are BEING REPLACED by
> >> catalyst 3560s! So, for a
> >> period
> >> of
> > time, there will be 3550s in some
> >> people's labs, and 3560s in
> >> others...
> >>
> >> ---------snip email from R&S head
> >> proctor----
> >>
> >> Hi
> > Brad,
> >>
> >> CCIE R&S will start replacing the 3550s
> >> and introducing
> > the 3560. For
> >> a
> >> period candidates might see 3550s and
> >> 3560s
> >>
> > because it takes time to
> >> replace everything, but is not a bad idea
> > if
> >> you go to have 3560s.
> >>
> >> Maurilio
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/index.html
> >>
> > Change to CCIE R&S Lab Equipment and IOS
> >> Effective November 13,
> > 2006, CCIE Routing
> >> and Switching labs will
> >> begin
> >> replacing the
> > Catalyst 3550 by introducing
> >> the Cisco Catalyst 3560
> >> Series
> >>
> > enterprise-class switches.
> >>
> >> All CCIE R&S candidates taking exams
> > on or
> >> after that date should be
> >> familiar with the new switches and
> >> associated IOS, although
> >> installation of
> >> the new equipment will
> > take place over
> >> several months and some
> >> candidates
> >> may not see
> > the new equipment in their exams
> >> right away. No changes
> >> are
> >>
> > being made to the lab exam blueprint at this
> >> time and candidates
> >> should
> >>
> > continue to refer to the existing CCIE R&S
> >> Lab Exam Blueprint for exam
> >>
> > topics.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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> >> --
> >>
> >>
> > === message truncated ===
> >
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