From: Ben Holko (ben.holko@globalcenter.net.au)
Date: Wed Oct 18 2006 - 04:02:04 ART
...I'm not sure why people seem to care so much whether it is 2 or 4....
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
sabrina pittarel
Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2006 4:18 PM
To: Darby Weaver; Sean C.; Narbik Kocharians
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH ALREADY
Darby,
if you read my email yesterday it was Tom who told me people will start
seeing 4 switches in the lab.
I'm not sure why people refuse to believe.
Sabrina
----- Original Message ----
From: Darby Weaver
<darbyweaver@yahoo.com>
To: Sean C. <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>; Narbik Kocharians
<narbikk@gmail.com>
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: Tuesday,
October 17, 2006 9:05:03 PM
Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH ALREADY
All,
Sorry to see my name in one of the quotes.
Nowhere does it
state "4" Switching. In the U.S.
version of English the word "replacing"
means to use
one in lieu of the other.
Now by Maurilio Gorito's comment - it
suggests one may
see one of each (3560 and 3550 - as an example) for a time in one lab or
the other.
Now, I'm going to RTP this Friday and Tom, who works for Maurilio in
some sense, will be there - most likely.
Tom configures the
equipment to be deployed in the
CCIE Labs worldwide.
I would think he "might"
have a clue about such
things.
But if it were me:
I have 2 3550's today in
my most update rack and I
will have two and only 2 3560's in my rack after the the Novemeber
turnover. Which for me if I do not pass the lab on the 20th of October,
the 21st of October will be MY effective date to start working with
3560's.
For everyone else, read the thread - people are jibing at and joking
about it. i.e. This is a big joke.
There are 2 and only 2 switches until you read it plainly on Cisco's
Website. In which case, you will likely have at least 6 months to
adjust yourself and your own rack accordingly.
Now when you
see InternetworkExpert's Bill of
Materials reading 4 switches. It is likely because they already have 2
3550's and will likely keep them and will also have 3560's (qty 2). The
student can pick and choose - correct me (Brian and
Brian) if I
speak out of turn. I don't work for them - BTW.
Understand the
3550 is being outdated by Cisco - why
would they leave it on the rack???
Use
the tremendous brain power you each have to read English.
==============================
Personally even if I see a 3560 on the rack - I gather I will be doing
the same things as I did on the 3550.
Cisco has to
go through a process like everyone else.
They do it this way for the routers
- why would they
not for the switches?
I mean - had I not spent a bundle on
updating my
equipment.
I'd just use 2514's on 12.2.17T to study with and a pair of 3550's and I
feel I'd do pretty good on any given lab.
When I studied
using the Mock Labs with the Brians a
few month back - the code on the routers was not the latest... But I
learned what I needed to know just the same.
You
can do quite a bit... or you can keep up with the Jones's...
You decide.
For
me the lab is passable, even if it takes more than one attempt.
They simply
ask questions from a body of knowledge
they listed to be studied.
That is
all...
--- "Sean C." <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com> wrote:
> What's
"...not correct ..."? Where on the Cisco
> website does it state what
> will
be the total number of switches?
>
> Mind you, just because it states that it
will be
> replacing the model of switch
> is independent of what the total
number of switches
> will be.
>
> All you can be suggesting is that what
Gavin posted
> from Tong Ma was
> fraudulent.
> Also, what Scott was
fraudulent:
>
http://shop.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200609/msg01279.html
>
> If you want to stay prepared for only 2 switches - then you "go for
> it"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Narbik Kocharians
> To: Sean C
>
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:56 PM
>
Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE R&S Pre ENOUGH
> ALREAD
>
>
> That's
all i can say, if you think CIsco's web
> site is not correct then go
> for it
and prep up for four switches.
>
>
> On 10/17/06, Sean C
<Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> Wha?? I don't need to read the link
you
> provided - even if I did, because
> of the link's ambiguity, one could
only 'assume'.
>
> Like I wrote at the end of my last email - if I
>
walked into the lab
> sometime in mid-November, I expect to see 4 switches.
The email from Tong Ma
> validates that thinking - ASSUMING Tong's email
>
wasn't doctored (which I don't
> believe Gavin did in anyway).
>
>
Unfortunately, your last gripe "It's
> unbelievable" is, in fact,
>
BELIEVABLE, simply because there is wrong
> information being posted out
there.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Narbik Kocharians
>
To: Sean C.
> Cc: Brad Ellis ; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent:
Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Lab Equipment for CCIE
R&S Pre
> ENOUGH ALREADY
>
>
> Let's not assume anymore, here PLEASE
READ IT
> AND TELL ME YOUR
> INTERPRETENTION. It's unbeleivable
>
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/#rsnewlabequip
>
>
> On 10/16/06, Sean C. <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com
> > wrote:
>
Yes, but Brad, (and I write this
> respectfully) - I think there is
> some
>
hesitation (or at least 2nd guessing) when
> we find conflicting
> information
> like what is posted below.
>
> "Yes, just two switches. The
other rumors
> about four switches
> are/were
> incorrect.
>
thanks,
> Brad Ellis"
>
>
http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200610/msg00121.html
>
>
Then, a few posts later...
>
> To: Gavin Lawson
> Subject:
Switches in the Lab
> Please include the following line in all
>
replies.
> Tracking number: CT20061002_0000000312
> Hello
Gavin,
> Yes there will be 4 switches in the lab after the November
upgrade and
> it
> will be a combination of 3550 & 3560 but we are
not releasing the
> numbers of
> each type being used.
>
Regards,
> Tong Ma
> CCIE Program
>
>
http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200610/msg00134.html
>
> I
recognize the number of switches is a
> different 'thread' then the
> model of
> switches. But still, the reason there maybe some
> misinformation
is
> because
> of statements like the ones above.
>
> Again,
I write this respectfully,
> Sean
>
> PS - my $$ is on there
will be 4 switches in
> the lab.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
From: "Brad Ellis" < brad@ccbootcamp.com>
> To: "Victor Cappuccio" <
>
cvictor@protokolgroup.com>; "Shamin"
> <ccie.xpert@gmail.com>; "ali
usmani" <
> alihassan80@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Brian Dennis"
>
<bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: Lab Equipment
for CCIE R&S Pre
> ENOUGH ALREADY!
>
>
> lovely...lets keep the
rumors going! the
> 3550s WILL BE REMOVED!!!
> YES!
> They will be!
They are BEING REPLACED by
> catalyst 3560s! So, for a
> period
> of
time, there will be 3550s in some
> people's labs, and 3560s in
> others...
>
> ---------snip email from R&S head
> proctor----
>
> Hi
Brad,
>
> CCIE R&S will start replacing the 3550s and introducing
the 3560. For
> a
> period candidates might see 3550s and 3560s
>
because it takes time to
> replace everything, but is not a bad idea
if
> you go to have 3560s.
>
> Maurilio
>
>
>
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http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/index.html
>
Change to CCIE R&S Lab Equipment and IOS
> Effective November 13,
2006, CCIE Routing
> and Switching labs will
> begin
> replacing the
Catalyst 3550 by introducing
> the Cisco Catalyst 3560
> Series
>
enterprise-class switches.
>
> All CCIE R&S candidates taking exams
on or
> after that date should be
> familiar with the new switches and associated IOS, although
> installation of
> the new equipment will
take place over
> several months and some
> candidates
> may not see
the new equipment in their exams
> right away. No changes
> are
>
being made to the lab exam blueprint at this
> time and candidates
> should
>
continue to refer to the existing CCIE R&S
> Lab Exam Blueprint for exam
>
topics.
>
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