RE: CCIE Numbers Flying.......

From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Wed Oct 11 2006 - 15:56:32 ART


While an interesting idea, I think Cisco has their hands full enough with
getting people scheduled in the labs these days. The 16,000'ish that have
already passed don't need to take it any more.

Thankfully it wouldn't be a lab for each track every three years. That
would suck. :) Other than that though, I would think that more people
would simply let their CCIE expire if that were the case. While I enjoy my
IE, if I feel like spending another $1,250 I'll go take a new track.

*shrug* We'll see what the end up doing. No sense speculating until things
are announced anyway!

 
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
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http://www.ipexpert.com
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Jojo
jojo
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:40 PM
To: changjoe@earthlink.net; swarooppotdar@hotmail.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE Numbers Flying.......

Once i hear from a cisco guy that they will force all CCIEs to take their
respective tracks once every 3 years. That means taking the lab for any
track once every 3 years. So if you are dual or triple CCIE you'll take R$S
or security and one passing renews the other like passing the written renews
your IE. You will have to pass the lab for any track every 3 years.

However, that was 2 years ago, so I dont know how will i feel taking a lab
every 3 years.

Will be fun, but probably wont do it!
Jb

>From: "Joe Chang" <changjoe@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: "Joe Chang" <changjoe@earthlink.net>
>To: "Swaroop Potdar" <swarooppotdar@hotmail.com>,
><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: Re: CCIE Numbers Flying.......
>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:14:23 -0400
>
>About the possibilty of a higher test, I would not be opposed to the idea.
>However, having taken the CCIE many times (I'd be embarassed if I had
>to reveal just how many) I would like to see something different than
>the IE, rather than just more difficult. There's plenty of knowledge
>that the format of the IE cannot measure.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Swaroop Potdar" <swarooppotdar@hotmail.com>
>To: <changjoe@earthlink.net>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:39 PM
>Subject: Re: CCIE Numbers Flying.......
>
>
> > I appreciate your reply,
> >
> > As I had expected the post to be taken with this same attitude only.
> >
> > Accepting the facts and being open to changes, as its not in
> > anybodys control.
> > Kudos.
> >
> > If Cisco feels there is a need for extra specialized track than
> > CCIE,
>which
> > can create a pool or
> > extra special SME's then there is no harm, its all in the intrest of
> > the larger community, that is Cisco's customers.
> >
> > As is CCIE would be obviously more valuable than CCNP anyday. But a
>Track
> > above it by no means
> > can be undermined.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Swaroop.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Joe Chang" <changjoe@earthlink.net>
> > >To: "Swaroop Potdar"
><swarooppotdar@hotmail.com>,<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE Numbers Flying.......
> > >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:13:27 -0400
> > >
> > >It's a good observation. When I made the decision to pursue the
> > >CCIE
>five
> > >years ago I considered the two extereme possibilities. One
> > >possibility
>is
> > >that there will always be the perception of too few CCIEs in
>circulation,
> > >and the CCIE would retain some sort of premium value. The other
> > >extreme
>is
> > >that there would be a great many CCIEs out there. Would the CCIE
> > >then
>be
> > >worthless? That would depend on the difficulty and relevance of the
>test.
> > >Unless Cisco decided to make the test far easier, the CCIE would
>continue
> > >to
> > >be a high standard of proficiency.
> > >
> > >So what kind of environment would exist if there were many tens of
> > >thousands of CCIEs and the lab test were as tough, if not tougher
> > >than it is
>today?
> > >It
> > >would be an unpleasant scenario where the CCIE is worth much less,
> > >but would be considered mandatory if one wished to do any
> > >interesting work as far
>as
> > >Cisco products are concerned.
> > >
> > >Either future is unlikely. Most likely the CCIE population will
>stabilize
> > >at
> > >a number that neither the haves or have-nots will be happy with.
> > >But
>unless
> > >the Cisco drops the ball with the CCIE program, the certification
> > >will continue to have some significant value.
> > >
> > >Best,
> > > Joe Chang, #16805
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Swaroop Potdar" <swarooppotdar@hotmail.com>
> > >To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 2:25 PM
> > >Subject: CCIE Numbers Flying.......
> > >
> > >
> > > > I just cant help but notice one thing that in past couple of
> > > > months,
>the
> > > > CCIE numbers have been moving so fast, as if they were flying.
> > > > Hope
>CCIE
> > > > doesnt become a common phenomenon as CCNP.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On the lighter side;
> > > >
> > > > I wont be surprised, with due respect to CCIE, CIsco may come up
>with
>a
> > >new
> > > > track called
> > > >
> > > > CCIS - Cisco Certified Internetwork Specialist. # starting from
> > > > 1024
>-
> > >NNNN
> > > >
> > > > CHeers!,
> > > > Swaroop
> > > >
> > > >
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