RE: OT - Service provider CCIE lab equipment

From: Brian McGahan (bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Tue Oct 10 2006 - 17:07:35 ART


        Certain features of the 7200 are only supported on the VXR even
though it's running the same image as the non-VXR, for example, EoMPLS
with AToM. The minor difference in features and the excessive cost of
the VXRs IMHO doesn't justify buying it for lab purposes though. For
example there are some ebay listings now for 7206 w/ NPE-200 plus
various PA's buy it now for $1000, where the VXRs are well over $7000.

        With Internetwork Expert's shortly upcoming release of our SP
CCIE Workbook I will be posting compatible topologies for Dynamips in
which you will be able to do the vast majority of the tasks without
needing physical equipment. With the addition of practice on Catalyst
3550s and some additional topics like cell mode MPLS you should be good
to go. I'm anticipating a release date of about two weeks from now so
more info will be available as that time approaches.

HTH,

Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Swaroop Potdar
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 2:19 PM
> To: frenzeus@streamyx.com; swm@emanon.com;
tschaffran@cconlinelabs.com;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: OT - Service provider CCIE lab equipment
>
> Dynamips is a very good tool, and makes things convenient and
affordable
> for
> all those who want to practise for the Labs. So you can practise to
your
> hearts content till you have a good grip with the CLI and the
technology
> and
> then rent an online rack for last 8 to 10 days, for the whole some
feel.
>
> And to meet those numbers of devices 9 routers and 2 switches, you
should
> be
> well off with 3 high configuration desktops for Dynamips.
>
> Anything related to routers can be simulated very well as well as the
IOS
> can work, as dynamips is nothing different than running the IOS given
by
> Cisco. They are simply providing an interface with virtual PA,NM
created
> for
> us.
>
> And you would be the most happiest person to work through for your
LAB.
>
> HTH-Cheers,
> Swaroop.
>
> PS: I have tested dynamips and the bugs and stability is related to
the
> dynagen application, like it utlizes a lot of memory and CPU
currently,
> but
> with passing time, and with new version its shaping quite well. So as
such
> there wont be any bugs with the features you practise, if there is no
BUG
> in
> the IOS you are loading using the SIM then there is no problem. All
this
> is
> possible as all the routers of Cisco 7200 and below used to run all
> features
> in software. It would not be possible to simulate 7600 and likes as
they
> are
> totally ASIC based.
>
>
>
> >From: AllaboutCisco <frenzeus@streamyx.com>
> >Reply-To: AllaboutCisco <frenzeus@streamyx.com>
> >To: Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com>, "'Tony Schaffran'"
> ><tschaffran@cconlinelabs.com>, ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >Subject: Re: OT - Service provider CCIE lab equipment
> >Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:33:10 +0800
> >
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> >
> >
> >I read somewhere in cisco netpro that they will be adding another 3
> routers
> >to the existing 6 pieces and 2 switches, bringing the total of
routers
> >configurable by candidate to 9 routers, 2 switches.
> >
> >I'm trying to decide, should i be building my own lab (i have
leftovers
> of
> >6 x 2600XMs from my R&S) or should i be reverting to the more mobile
> >Dynamips? Now i understand for sure that the XMs do not run MPLS/VPN
or
> TE
> >from 12.3 onwards...so i am running into the possibility of not being
> able
> >to simulate a big part of the MPLS here for the SP track <-- which i
> >personally feel is a rather significant portion for this track.
> >
> >Appreciate any thoughts/advice on this.. as i'm thinking if i should
sell
> >of my lab and consider dynamips. What other things will i be
missing??
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
> >To: "'Tony Schaffran'" <tschaffran@cconlinelabs.com>;
> ><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:12 PM
> >Subject: RE: OT - Service provider CCIE lab equipment
> >
> >
> >>For a lab environment I doubt you care. Of course this depends on
what
> >>IOS
> >>image you are running and what memory requirements there are.
Certain
> >>IOS's
> >>require more memory, more memory may require a newer NPE. Some NPEs
> only
> >>work on VXR chassis.
> >>
> >>;)
> >>
> >>But if what you want works on a non-VXR chassis, then don't spend
the
> >>extra
> >>money for lab gear IMHO.
> >>
> >>
> >>Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> JNCIE
> >>#153, CISSP, et al.
> >>CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> >>IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
> >>IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> >>smorris@ipexpert.com
> >>http://www.ipexpert.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> >>Tony
> >>Schaffran
> >>Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:35 AM
> >>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >>Subject: OT - Service provider CCIE lab equipment
> >>
> >>Is there any reason to use a 7200 VXR instead of a non-VXR in the
lab
> >>environment?
> >>
> >>
> >>Does the non-VXR allow for all of the required features or is
something
> >>lost?
> >>
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