From: Alex De Gruiter \(AU\) (Alex.deGruiter@didata.com.au)
Date: Fri Oct 06 2006 - 04:31:38 ART
I think I must have just over-read the question. That was ultimately my
downfall. I read too much into the few questions that made a difference,
and I have learned from the experience. I think a lot of my questions
were, as Brad points out, over-analysed - so the proctor telling me to
"read the question" was probably an indication that I was reading *too
much* into the question.
I was too reliant on the proctor, I think. I've read many threads in
this forum where proctor-reliance is noted as a key element in achieving
the CCIE - in my next attempt I'll simply pay attention to the wording
of the question. I won't worry so much on the 2nd attempt about
communicating with the proctor, unless absolutely necessary. I thought I
could win the psychology battle on the 1st attempt, but life goes on.
Technically the CCIE lab is a *LOT* easier than the vendor labs; but the
CCIE, in essence, is a test of temperament and interpretation (I like
Victor's pun about the Cisco English test!). I'm sure there are plenty
of very capable people who fail, not due to technical inability, but
misinterpretation of requirements. Perhaps this is why the cert is so
valued.
Such is life.
Alex
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Angelo De Guzman
Sent: Friday, 6 October 2006 4:32 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re:Proctor help?
hi Alex,
Usually if you ask a question in such a way that you demonstrated a
clear understanding of the technology you would get a positive response
from the proctor. In my experience usually I would ask a question that I
already know the answer and see the response of the proctor. Just to
check. If you do above and still did not get a positive feedback. As
Scott usually quotes during my bootcamp experience, ask the proctor "
why do you hate me?" hehe kidding only.
Yes it is really better to read the question several times before
you ask the proctor. Most of the times if you do this you might answer
or even find the solution to your question.
Angelo
Alex De Gruiter (AU) (10/6/06 12:46 PM):
>
>Hey Guys,
>
>I've read many, many times on this list people mentioning that the
>"proctor is your friend" and if you need clarification the "proctor is
>there to help". Well, I recently sat (and failed) the lab exam; I
>evidently wasn't as ready for the lab as I thought I was - that's cool,
>I know the areas I need to improve. However I do have a question along
>the lines of proctor assistance - or lack thereof.
>
>Literally every time I asked a question in my lab, I was told "Read the
>question" (a rather redundant activity I thought, given that I was
>referencing the question in my line of enquiry!). Now, I don't expect
>the proctor to give the answer away, not at all, but I am confused by
>comments about how helpful the proctor was. I actually reached a point
>with my proctor where I gave up asking questions because I already knew
>the answer: "read the question".
>
>I can't give concrete examples due to the NDA, however I know for a
>fact that there were at least 3 or 4 questions that could be answered
>using more than 1 methodology. However the proctor told me, in no
>uncertain terms, that he would not assist in my choice. Has anyone had
>similar experiences with proctors? In these situations, are we marked
>down for choosing a methodology other than the one Cisco expected us to
use?
>
>Alex
>
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