From: Jens Petter (jenseike@start.no)
Date: Thu Sep 28 2006 - 14:56:58 ART
Not sure who you are writing this to, but have to come with a coment
anyway...
From what i can see here on GS the vendors get both positive and negative
feedback... I think both are good. Bad feedback is good to keep the vendors
making good products, good feedback is also good so that they get some
positive boost for all that hard work they put down..
I think that errors are a product of a hasty launch dates. Vendors is
hasting to get their workbooks finish as fast as possible, then scarifying
the testing of the labs they have written. If the labs are well tested
after, then those errors would be spotted by the vendors.. I don't think
that a wb full of errors are any good for practice and learning. If that was
a good study method we would have had labs that had those errors put in from
those who wrote them on purpose.. no, do extensive testing and keep the
errors out, then we all can consentrate on what we should... solving the
labs and knowing that when we look at the solution we can be confident that
they are right and that we have the right solution our selfe...
The thing is that some workbooks have been sent out on the marked with not a
few errors, but a lot.. that is really not what people pay big money for and
then they have they full right to tell that to the vendors... That is just
bad buisniss in any busnniss to put out a product that are not finish.. Just
think of it if you by a car and suddenly your weels start coming of.. Of
course you would lash out at who ever sold you that.. workboks are a product
like any other product... they should be finish when they hit the marked...
Of course they put down a hell of a job... I put down a hell of a job on
every project I work in.. That does not mean that I can do a job that the
customer are not happy with.. I have to make sure that everything is
perfect.. That should the vendors also do, make sure the wbs are perfect...
Customers should not be the ones that should spot errors but you who make
it.. before you sell it...
Thanks...
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Lasarko
Sent: 28. september 2006 19:10
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: All CCIE Workbooks
..and prep materials have errors.
I should know as I have used many.
I also know that every vendor I have used
has made an effort to resolve the issues
on their forums, in *free* updates, etc...
They are all receptive and rely on those who
use the materials for feedback.
Do your homework before you claim the
teacher fudged up the dittos and don't
act as though like they don't listen!
These vendors do an excellent job IMO.
Anyone who is truly prepared for their lab
should be able to decipher a few "errors"
and get on with their studies.
It is all relative - nothing is perfect,
Especially on lab day.
There is always *something*
Please accept it and move on.
Give these vendors some credit and communicate
with them as opposed to bashing them on GS and
wasting our collective bandwidth.
If you disagree, maybe you should go write your own
labs and show the rest of us how *perfect* you are!
At the end of the day the labs, whatever the "quality",
are only as valuable as the candidate who is doing
the lab - you get from it what you put into it. If you can
spot error and/or alternate solutions than good for you!
(That's part of what it is all about)
Think about that before you bash the rest of the best.
~M
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