From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Fri Aug 18 2006 - 10:47:53 ART
Hehehe... The best way to describe them is simply "different". While the
JNCIP and JNCIE are both 8-hour lab exams there really isn't a way to
quantify the two against each other!
JNCIP exam is more closely associated with the R&S CCIE due to its topic
focus. Juniper exams will go into more depth on protocols (because they
don't have the same lengthy feature list that Cisco does) but will be more
real-world scenario based.
The JNCIE is more closely associated with the SP CCIE by topic focus. Some
say the JNCIE is harder because you have more devices to configure than any
of the CCIE exams, and certainly more BB devices to interact with. But that
doesn't necessarily make it HARDER, just a bit less convoluted and more
complicated.
The bottom line with either exam though is whether or not you know the
technologies! If you do not, you can fail either exam just as easily! :)
HTH,
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
smorris@ipexpert.com
http://www.ipexpert.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Sreeram [mailto:sreeram@paradise.net.nz]
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:39 AM
To: Scott Morris; 'Scott Thornton'; 'Cisco certification'
Subject: Re: OT Jeff Doyle book and cert
Jeff Doyle do have JNCIE also. As far I can remember, his number was in
first 50.
One slight off topic. I work for a service provider vendor and we have lot
of ABCs (Anything but Cisco). People boast that JNCIP is equivalent to CCIE
and JNCIE is lot harder than CCIE. Is that true Scott?
Anyway I am undeterred by it. I am following my dream of achieving CCIE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
To: "'Scott Thornton'" <scthornton@gmail.com>; "'Cisco certification'"
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:40 PM
Subject: RE: OT Jeff Doyle book and cert
> He is listed as inactive per the verification tool. Although since he's
> working at Juniper, and given the level at Juniper that he's at, I'm not
> sure that marketing his Cisco certification was at the top of his list.
> :)
>
> He's still a bright guy, and that's actually a pretty decent book for some
> insight into different things with OSPF and ISIS deployments.
>
> I don't think it will help too much with the CCIE lab, but for real life
> it's a good book!
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
> #153, CISSP, et al.
> CCSI/JNCI-M/JNCI-J
> IPExpert VP - Curriculum Development
> IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> smorris@ipexpert.com
> http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Thornton
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:21 PM
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: OT Jeff Doyle book and cert
>
> Not really a big deal, but caught my eye...Is Jeff Doyle not a CCIE
> anymore?
> I see he works for Juniper, but his CCIE number doesn't follow his name on
> this book...
>
> https://www.junipernetworks.com/training/jnbooks/fall_igp05.html
>
> Also, has anyone read this book? Opinions?
>
> --
> Scott C Thornton
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