From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Mon Aug 07 2006 - 11:37:38 ART
I'm just looking to form it. Every cause needs a poster-child, but I am
clearly not a "cured" story. :)
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Bizzell, Keith
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:02 AM
To: D.H. Williams; Scott Morris
Cc: David Mann; Joshua Lauer; Bill Wagner; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: R&S Lab Difficulty
Scott, I'm afraid you wouldn't be a good success model for an IE
12-step...unless you're talking about FORMING an addiction to it! ;) (and
you're still EVIL)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of D.H.
Williams
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:35 AM
To: Scott Morris
Cc: David Mann; Joshua Lauer; Bill Wagner; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: R&S Lab Difficulty
Scott, you would make a killing!
On 8/6/06, Scott Morris <swm@emanon.com> wrote:
>
> Don't get TOO addicted or you'll do something weird and end up in a
> 12-step
> program for IE's. :) (I'm thinking of starting one!)
>
> Scott
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of David Mann
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:08 PM
> To: Joshua Lauer; Bill Wagner; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: R&S Lab Difficulty
>
> I felt confident last time that I had a chance of passing even though
> I had not attempted several sections. I was that sure I had gotten my
> core next to perfect. Anyway, I have on both attempts felt very
> comfortable and never stressed out. Thank the lord for that.
>
> I have had practice labs that were more convoluted than the real lab
> but not necessarly harder. I was just stating that my second attempt
> seemed harder.
>
> I have to say that thru out this process it has given me an even
> moreso reason for the respect I pay to those that have finished this
beast.
>
> I can't wait until my next attempt. I think I'm getting addicted to
> taking the lab :-)
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lauer" <jslauer@hotmail.com>
> To: "David Mann" <dmann73702@elmore.rr.com>; "Bill Wagner"
> <billccie2b@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: R&S Lab Difficulty
>
>
> > You'll know when your gonna do it is my take on the whole thing. I
> wouldnt
>
> > get wrapped around the axel about which vendors practice labs are
> > "harder", when you know the fundamentals you know them no matter
> > what practice lab book you use. Buy them all and you'll see, like
> > people
> they
> > are all different and have a different swing on the way they present
> > things.
> >
> >
> > I wasnt ready my first two attempts. My third attempt I felt I was
> > ready but I didnt pay attention to detail and thus, failed. My forth
> > and final attempt I not only was more ready I also relaxed, and
> > finished 2 hours early and passed. I dont think the CCIE lab is out
> > to fail you, it's
> just
> > freaking hard. You'll get your number soon!
> >
> >
> > jl
> >
> >
> > Joshua Lauer
> >
> > CCIE#16024
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Mann" <dmann73702@elmore.rr.com>
> > To: "Bill Wagner" <billccie2b@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 2:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: R&S Lab Difficulty
> >
> >
> >>I have failed twice now, May 8th and July 24th. I felt that I was
> >>very prepared my last time but my score report said otherwise.
> >> I do feel that my last exam was harder. I know the topics but must
> >>be misunderstanding the questions. I will say that I will not have
> >>the weak points I currently have when I sit it again.
> >>
> >> I have used Ipexpert and am working thru Doit labs.
> >> Have you rescheduled? Whats your approach?
> >>
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bill Wagner" <billccie2b@hotmail.com>
> >> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:29 PM
> >> Subject: R&S Lab Difficulty
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi guys, I am trying to get a handle on the R&S Lab difficulty.
> >>> Not
> long
> >>> ago I attempted the lab and came up short. I had done quite a
> >>> number
> of
> >>> full practice labs (around 40) and felt that I was fairly strong
> >>> with them. To be sure I wasn't cheating myself somehow I attempted
> >>> a mock
> lab
> >>> and did really well on it. From reading this message board for
> sometime
> >>> I
> >>> noticed many people say that the actual lab was a lot easier than
> >>> the practice labs and in one case someone said 3-5 times easier.
> >>> Well without disclosing any information I can honestly say that
> >>> the real lab I took was more difficult than any other practice
> >>> labs I had attempted prior.
> >>> Now I haven't been someone who came into this thinking that I knew
> >>> so much that I only needed to pump out some practice labs,memorize
> >>> some scenarios, and learn the "advanced content". Instead I took
> >>> the ground up approach to build a strong foundation by
> >>> understanding the technology.
> >>> Well after recently failing the lab I am somewhat humbled and am
> trying
> >>> to get an understanding of where I stand. Part of me believes that
> >>> I
> got
> >>> a difficult test, but then another part of me thinks that maybe I
> >>> am
> not
> >>> as ready as I thought I was. The thing is that it seems hard to
> >>> gauge
> so
> >>> I need to come to the group for some answers. Now if some how or
> >>> some way this is in violation of the NDA please disregard it and
> >>> do not answer it, but I don't think this will break the NDA so
> >>> here they are. My
> questions
> >>> for anyone who has taken the lab or taken it mutiple times is: 1.
> >>> Did the actual test seem more difficult than the labs or was it
> >>> the other way around? If so what material did you use to prepare
> >>> with. 2. Did anyone who has attempted multiple labs feel that any
> >>> labs were easier than others or did they all seem about the same
> >>> difficulty? 3. What is a
> good
> >>> way to guage if you are ready or not? I am open to any ideas at
> >>> all. I would rather be overprepared than underprepared, but where
> >>> that line
> is
> >>> at I don't know. 4. Does anyone feel that the lab is out to fail
you?
> By
> >>> this I mean after seeing the Cisco facility in SJC I was extreemly
> >>> impressed with the facility. It was beautiful, but when I sat down
> >>> at
> my
> >>> workstation I thought that there was some kind of mistake. The
> keyboard
> >>> looked like it belonged in a museum. It was really dirty and had
> >>> the
> big
> >>> enter key so everytime you try to hit backspace you hit enter. The
> pipe
> >>> key was tiny and not where it belongs. The right click button on
> >>> the mouse did not work and the scroll wheel did not move the
> >>> terminal
> window
> >>> but instead would move through previous commands in the history.
> >>> Also
> if
> >>> the scroll wheel was not in the exact right spot when you tried to
> >>> highlight text from the terminal window the screen would jump and
> >>> highlight 3 lines instead of the one you wanted. In addition the
> monitor
> >>> was not very good, although at least it worked. My friend said
> >>> that
> the
> >>> insert key was broken on his keyboard, and I couldn't use the
> >>> default (ALT E
> >>> P) quick key paste function from Secure CRT. Even notepad was
> >>> hidden
> way
> >>> off to the side of the quick key bar. Although this might seem
> trivial
> >>> it really throws you off if you are not used to it. I think that
> perhaps
> >>> this is all done to slow you down, however I could be wrong.
> >>> Anyway if anyone has input I would really appreciate it. Thanks,
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>>
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