From: Joshua Lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Aug 06 2006 - 18:55:30 ART
I think you'll do just fine,
I was pretty much under the gun my 4th attempt due
to a new child on the way, but I had to put all that
aside and just relax a bit and let go of all my
troubles for at least 8 hours. That was probably the
only reason I passed. I would say that many, if not
most, of the people that take the test have the
tools to pass it. It's that mental edge that set's
apart the passers from the non-passers and of course
a little luck doesnt hurt either. I must like the
pain as well, I'm gearing up for my first SP attempt
in November, hopefully I'll nail it but anything
goes with this lab.
Joshua Lauer
CCIE#16024
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mann" <dmann73702@elmore.rr.com>
To: "Joshua Lauer" <jslauer@hotmail.com>; "Bill
Wagner" <billccie2b@hotmail.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: R&S Lab Difficulty
>I felt confident last time that I had a chance of
>passing even though
> I had not attempted several sections. I was that
> sure I had gotten my
> core next to perfect. Anyway, I have on both
> attempts felt very comfortable
> and never stressed out. Thank the lord for that.
>
> I have had practice labs that were more convoluted
> than the real
> lab but not necessarly harder. I was just stating
> that my second attempt
> seemed harder.
>
> I have to say that thru out this process it has
> given me an even moreso reason
> for the respect I pay to those that have finished
> this beast.
>
> I can't wait until my next attempt. I think I'm
> getting addicted to taking the
> lab :-)
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lauer" <jslauer@hotmail.com>
> To: "David Mann" <dmann73702@elmore.rr.com>; "Bill
> Wagner" <billccie2b@hotmail.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: R&S Lab Difficulty
>
>
>> You'll know when your gonna do it is my take on
>> the whole thing. I wouldnt get wrapped around the
>> axel about which vendors practice labs are
>> "harder", when you know the fundamentals you know
>> them no matter what practice lab book you use.
>> Buy them all and you'll see, like people they are
>> all different and have a different swing on the
>> way they present things.
>>
>>
>> I wasnt ready my first two attempts. My third
>> attempt I felt I was ready but I didnt pay
>> attention to detail and thus, failed. My forth
>> and final attempt I not only was more ready I
>> also relaxed, and finished 2 hours early and
>> passed. I dont think the CCIE lab is out to fail
>> you, it's just freaking hard. You'll get your
>> number soon!
>>
>>
>> jl
>>
>>
>> Joshua Lauer
>>
>> CCIE#16024
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Mann" <dmann73702@elmore.rr.com>
>> To: "Bill Wagner" <billccie2b@hotmail.com>;
>> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 2:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: R&S Lab Difficulty
>>
>>
>>>I have failed twice now, May 8th and July 24th. I
>>>felt that I was very prepared my last time but my
>>>score report said otherwise.
>>> I do feel that my last exam was harder. I know
>>> the topics but must be misunderstanding the
>>> questions. I will say that I will not
>>> have the weak points I currently have when I sit
>>> it again.
>>>
>>> I have used Ipexpert and am working thru Doit
>>> labs.
>>> Have you rescheduled? Whats your approach?
>>>
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bill Wagner" <billccie2b@hotmail.com>
>>> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:29 PM
>>> Subject: R&S Lab Difficulty
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi guys, I am trying to get a handle on the R&S
>>>> Lab difficulty. Not long
>>>> ago I attempted the lab and came up short. I
>>>> had done quite a number of
>>>> full practice labs (around 40) and felt that I
>>>> was fairly strong with
>>>> them. To be sure I wasn't cheating myself
>>>> somehow I attempted a mock lab
>>>> and did really well on it. From reading this
>>>> message board for sometime I
>>>> noticed many people say that the actual lab was
>>>> a lot easier than the
>>>> practice labs and in one case someone said 3-5
>>>> times easier. Well without
>>>> disclosing any information I can honestly say
>>>> that the real lab I took
>>>> was more difficult than any other practice labs
>>>> I had attempted prior.
>>>> Now I haven't been someone who came into this
>>>> thinking that I knew so
>>>> much that I only needed to pump out some
>>>> practice labs,memorize some
>>>> scenarios, and learn the "advanced content".
>>>> Instead I took the ground up
>>>> approach to build a strong foundation by
>>>> understanding the technology.
>>>> Well after recently failing the lab I am
>>>> somewhat humbled and am trying
>>>> to get an understanding of where I stand. Part
>>>> of me believes that I got
>>>> a difficult test, but then another part of me
>>>> thinks that maybe I am not
>>>> as ready as I thought I was. The thing is that
>>>> it seems hard to gauge so
>>>> I need to come to the group for some answers.
>>>> Now if some how or some way
>>>> this is in violation of the NDA please
>>>> disregard it and do not answer it,
>>>> but I don't think this will break the NDA so
>>>> here they are. My questions
>>>> for anyone who has taken the lab or taken it
>>>> mutiple times is: 1. Did the
>>>> actual test seem more difficult than the labs
>>>> or was it the other way
>>>> around? If so what material did you use to
>>>> prepare with. 2. Did anyone
>>>> who has attempted multiple labs feel that any
>>>> labs were easier than
>>>> others or did they all seem about the same
>>>> difficulty? 3. What is a good
>>>> way to guage if you are ready or not? I am open
>>>> to any ideas at all. I
>>>> would rather be overprepared than
>>>> underprepared, but where that line is
>>>> at I don't know. 4. Does anyone feel that the
>>>> lab is out to fail you? By
>>>> this I mean after seeing the Cisco facility in
>>>> SJC I was extreemly
>>>> impressed with the facility. It was beautiful,
>>>> but when I sat down at my
>>>> workstation I thought that there was some kind
>>>> of mistake. The keyboard
>>>> looked like it belonged in a museum. It was
>>>> really dirty and had the big
>>>> enter key so everytime you try to hit backspace
>>>> you hit enter. The pipe
>>>> key was tiny and not where it belongs. The
>>>> right click button on the
>>>> mouse did not work and the scroll wheel did not
>>>> move the terminal window
>>>> but instead would move through previous
>>>> commands in the history. Also if
>>>> the scroll wheel was not in the exact right
>>>> spot when you tried to
>>>> highlight text from the terminal window the
>>>> screen would jump and
>>>> highlight 3 lines instead of the one you
>>>> wanted. In addition the monitor
>>>> was not very good, although at least it worked.
>>>> My friend said that the
>>>> insert key was broken on his keyboard, and I
>>>> couldn't use the default (ALT E
>>>> P) quick key paste function from Secure CRT.
>>>> Even notepad was hidden way
>>>> off to the side of the quick key bar. Although
>>>> this might seem trivial
>>>> it really throws you off if you are not used to
>>>> it. I think that perhaps
>>>> this is all done to slow you down, however I
>>>> could be wrong. Anyway if
>>>> anyone has input I would really appreciate it.
>>>> Thanks, Bill
>>>>
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