Re: R&S Lab Difficulty

From: Joshua Lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Aug 06 2006 - 16:16:32 ART


You'll know when your gonna do it is my take on the
whole thing. I wouldnt get wrapped around the axel
about which vendors practice labs are "harder", when
you know the fundamentals you know them no matter
what practice lab book you use. Buy them all and
you'll see, like people they are all different and
have a different swing on the way they present
things.

I wasnt ready my first two attempts. My third
attempt I felt I was ready but I didnt pay attention
to detail and thus, failed. My forth and final
attempt I not only was more ready I also relaxed,
and finished 2 hours early and passed. I dont think
the CCIE lab is out to fail you, it's just freaking
hard. You'll get your number soon!

jl

Joshua Lauer

CCIE#16024

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Mann" <dmann73702@elmore.rr.com>
To: "Bill Wagner" <billccie2b@hotmail.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: R&S Lab Difficulty

>I have failed twice now, May 8th and July 24th. I
>felt that I was very prepared my last time but my
>score report said otherwise.
> I do feel that my last exam was harder. I know the
> topics but must be misunderstanding the questions.
> I will say that I will not
> have the weak points I currently have when I sit
> it again.
>
> I have used Ipexpert and am working thru Doit
> labs.
> Have you rescheduled? Whats your approach?
>
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Wagner" <billccie2b@hotmail.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:29 PM
> Subject: R&S Lab Difficulty
>
>
>> Hi guys, I am trying to get a handle on the R&S
>> Lab difficulty. Not long
>> ago I attempted the lab and came up short. I had
>> done quite a number of
>> full practice labs (around 40) and felt that I
>> was fairly strong with
>> them. To be sure I wasn't cheating myself somehow
>> I attempted a mock lab
>> and did really well on it. From reading this
>> message board for sometime I
>> noticed many people say that the actual lab was a
>> lot easier than the
>> practice labs and in one case someone said 3-5
>> times easier. Well without
>> disclosing any information I can honestly say
>> that the real lab I took
>> was more difficult than any other practice labs I
>> had attempted prior.
>> Now I haven't been someone who came into this
>> thinking that I knew so
>> much that I only needed to pump out some practice
>> labs,memorize some
>> scenarios, and learn the "advanced content".
>> Instead I took the ground up
>> approach to build a strong foundation by
>> understanding the technology.
>> Well after recently failing the lab I am somewhat
>> humbled and am trying
>> to get an understanding of where I stand. Part of
>> me believes that I got
>> a difficult test, but then another part of me
>> thinks that maybe I am not
>> as ready as I thought I was. The thing is that it
>> seems hard to gauge so
>> I need to come to the group for some answers. Now
>> if some how or some way
>> this is in violation of the NDA please disregard
>> it and do not answer it,
>> but I don't think this will break the NDA so here
>> they are. My questions
>> for anyone who has taken the lab or taken it
>> mutiple times is: 1. Did the
>> actual test seem more difficult than the labs or
>> was it the other way
>> around? If so what material did you use to
>> prepare with. 2. Did anyone
>> who has attempted multiple labs feel that any
>> labs were easier than
>> others or did they all seem about the same
>> difficulty? 3. What is a good
>> way to guage if you are ready or not? I am open
>> to any ideas at all. I
>> would rather be overprepared than underprepared,
>> but where that line is
>> at I don't know. 4. Does anyone feel that the lab
>> is out to fail you? By
>> this I mean after seeing the Cisco facility in
>> SJC I was extreemly
>> impressed with the facility. It was beautiful,
>> but when I sat down at my
>> workstation I thought that there was some kind of
>> mistake. The keyboard
>> looked like it belonged in a museum. It was
>> really dirty and had the big
>> enter key so everytime you try to hit backspace
>> you hit enter. The pipe
>> key was tiny and not where it belongs. The right
>> click button on the
>> mouse did not work and the scroll wheel did not
>> move the terminal window
>> but instead would move through previous commands
>> in the history. Also if
>> the scroll wheel was not in the exact right spot
>> when you tried to
>> highlight text from the terminal window the
>> screen would jump and
>> highlight 3 lines instead of the one you wanted.
>> In addition the monitor
>> was not very good, although at least it worked.
>> My friend said that the
>> insert key was broken on his keyboard, and I
>> couldn't use the default (ALT E
>> P) quick key paste function from Secure CRT. Even
>> notepad was hidden way
>> off to the side of the quick key bar. Although
>> this might seem trivial
>> it really throws you off if you are not used to
>> it. I think that perhaps
>> this is all done to slow you down, however I
>> could be wrong. Anyway if
>> anyone has input I would really appreciate it.
>> Thanks, Bill
>>
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