From: Paul Cosgrove (paul.cosgrove@heanet.ie)
Date: Tue Aug 01 2006 - 07:15:06 ART
This is the response I received from ccie@cisco.com after enquiring
about the score report & the NDA. I had asked whether I would be
breaking the NDA by showing it to my employer:
>Hi Paul,
>
>Yes, the score report is covered by the NDA. You should not share it
>with anyone. We will validate if someone is a CCIE or not, but
>performance shouldn't be discussed.
>
>Regards,
>
Godswill Oletu wrote:
> Joe,
>
> This is a very gray area, though by discussing your score report, you are
> not telling people what you got in the exam, but because of that little
> 'Disclaimer'
>
> "THIS SCORE REPORT SHOULD NOT BE FORWARDED, IT IS INTENDED FOR
> INFORMATIONAL
> PURPOSES ONLY BY THE CANDIDATE."
>
> It is difficult to tell if one will be breaking the NDA by discussing it. We
> have heard every now and then how people say, they got 82% or 72%, etc in
> such and such Cisco exam or this or that part of their lab exam. I am not
> very sure, but I do not think that is the main drive of Cisco's NDA policy,
> discuss this with ccie@cisco.com and see what they say.
>
> I believe one of the reason behind the disclaimer above is to avoid
> confusion, because the score report are weighted section by section and it
> is not a true representation of your overrall performance in the exam. So
> the bases for telling one if you will really passed when it is regraded is
> not really there. Also it is furtile comparing score reports one with the
> other, a score of 70% in IGP & 90% in Multicast in one score report does not
> mean an overall score of 80% and those two scores are not equivalent to a
> score of 90% in IGP & a score of 70% in Multicast in another score report.
>
> You have to love Cisco's own disclaimer...they said the score report is just
> ...."INFORMATIONAL..." ie FYI, once in a while if someone send me an email
> with the subject as 'FYI' or the body of the forwarded email says 'FYI', I
> just take it that, the person is just trying to keep me in the 'loop' and
> does not necessarily require an action, reaction or response from me.
>
> However, it is possible for one to determine his/her actual overall
> performance in the exam from his/her score report. But as we are always told
> in the "tips for taking the CCIE exam', you have to keep a tab of the for
> each point section for you to be able to dertermine this eg:
>
> Lets assume, my Lab exam only contain three sections, IGP(with 6 questions
> w/point values of 3 each), Multicast (with 2 question w/point value of 2 eac
> h) and Security (with 2 questions w/point values of 1&2). And my score
> report for these three areas are 70%, 100%, & 100%. If you break down the
> score report and do a triage of the actual points you got from each section,
> your overall score will be in the neighborhood of 78%, you can see that
> though your score report looks promising with scores of 70%,100% & another
> 100%, you actually failed the exam. But if you swap those scores around a
> little, the overall score will be different.
>
> If you are able to do your computation to this bit level and see that the
> tie-breaker was only a few points, and you have $250.00 to spare, then a
> re-read might be worth considering but do not count on it, start preparing
> for the next retake immediately. I believe Cisco is doing a better job of
> grading the labs and the statistics are against one passing via a re-read.
>
> HTH
>
>
> Godswill Oletu
> CCIE #16464
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Chang" <changjoe@earthlink.net>
> To: "Bajo" <bajoalex@gmail.com>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Are grades NDA?
>
>
>> Ah, thanks so much !
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Bajo
>> To: Joe Chang
>> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 10:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: Are grades NDA?
>>
>>
>> Ho Joe,
>>
>> That is a question for "ccie@cisco.com". I would think it would not
> break
>> until I read this at the report itself:
>>
>> "THIS SCORE REPORT SHOULD NOT BE FORWARDED, IT IS INTENDED FOR
> INFORMATIONAL
>> PURPOSES ONLY BY THE CANDIDATE."
>>
>>
>> On 7/28/06, Joe Chang <changjoe@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Hi, I'd like to post up the grades to my last attempt to seek advice
> on
>> whether I should pay Cisco for a regrade. Are grade breakdowns NDA ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Joe
>>
>>
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>>
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