Re: Are grades NDA?

From: Godswill Oletu (oletu@inbox.lv)
Date: Sat Jul 29 2006 - 14:34:56 ART


Joe,

This is a very gray area, though by discussing your score report, you are
not telling people what you got in the exam, but because of that little
'Disclaimer'

 "THIS SCORE REPORT SHOULD NOT BE FORWARDED, IT IS INTENDED FOR
INFORMATIONAL
PURPOSES ONLY BY THE CANDIDATE."

It is difficult to tell if one will be breaking the NDA by discussing it. We
have heard every now and then how people say, they got 82% or 72%, etc in
such and such Cisco exam or this or that part of their lab exam. I am not
very sure, but I do not think that is the main drive of Cisco's NDA policy,
discuss this with ccie@cisco.com and see what they say.

I believe one of the reason behind the disclaimer above is to avoid
confusion, because the score report are weighted section by section and it
is not a true representation of your overrall performance in the exam. So
the bases for telling one if you will really passed when it is regraded is
not really there. Also it is furtile comparing score reports one with the
other, a score of 70% in IGP & 90% in Multicast in one score report does not
mean an overall score of 80% and those two scores are not equivalent to a
score of 90% in IGP & a score of 70% in Multicast in another score report.

You have to love Cisco's own disclaimer...they said the score report is just
...."INFORMATIONAL..." ie FYI, once in a while if someone send me an email
with the subject as 'FYI' or the body of the forwarded email says 'FYI', I
just take it that, the person is just trying to keep me in the 'loop' and
does not necessarily require an action, reaction or response from me.

However, it is possible for one to determine his/her actual overall
performance in the exam from his/her score report. But as we are always told
in the "tips for taking the CCIE exam', you have to keep a tab of the for
each point section for you to be able to dertermine this eg:

Lets assume, my Lab exam only contain three sections, IGP(with 6 questions
w/point values of 3 each), Multicast (with 2 question w/point value of 2 eac
h) and Security (with 2 questions w/point values of 1&2). And my score
report for these three areas are 70%, 100%, & 100%. If you break down the
score report and do a triage of the actual points you got from each section,
your overall score will be in the neighborhood of 78%, you can see that
though your score report looks promising with scores of 70%,100% & another
100%, you actually failed the exam. But if you swap those scores around a
little, the overall score will be different.

If you are able to do your computation to this bit level and see that the
tie-breaker was only a few points, and you have $250.00 to spare, then a
re-read might be worth considering but do not count on it, start preparing
for the next retake immediately. I believe Cisco is doing a better job of
grading the labs and the statistics are against one passing via a re-read.

HTH

Godswill Oletu
CCIE #16464

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Chang" <changjoe@earthlink.net>
To: "Bajo" <bajoalex@gmail.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Are grades NDA?

> Ah, thanks so much !
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bajo
> To: Joe Chang
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Are grades NDA?
>
>
> Ho Joe,
>
> That is a question for "ccie@cisco.com". I would think it would not
break
> until I read this at the report itself:
>
> "THIS SCORE REPORT SHOULD NOT BE FORWARDED, IT IS INTENDED FOR
INFORMATIONAL
> PURPOSES ONLY BY THE CANDIDATE."
>
>
> On 7/28/06, Joe Chang <changjoe@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi, I'd like to post up the grades to my last attempt to seek advice
on
> whether I should pay Cisco for a regrade. Are grade breakdowns NDA ?
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
>



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