RE: Cisco Charging for Packet now?

From: Christopher M. Heffner (cheffner@certified-labs.com)
Date: Thu Jun 15 2006 - 17:25:49 ART


Additional remember that certain companies like Cisco Learning Partners
that use to pay Packet magazine to include a training catalog with the
packet magazine and then shrink-wrap the two items together and then you
would get the catalog too.

If the paper based subscriptions go dramatically down in circulation
then is it worth the partner to pay to include the training catalog.

Christopher M. Heffner, CCIE 8211, CCSI 98760

Strategic Network Solutions, Inc.

________________________________

From: Scott Thornton [mailto:scthornton@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:07 PM
To: Christopher M. Heffner
Cc: Mark Lasarko; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Cisco Charging for Packet now?

That's where I was coming from...similar to Christopher...Packet is
loaded with Ads and they probably have a pretty decent subscriber
base...what will charging $30 a year per subscription really do? Seems
to me like subscription numbers will go down significantly and thus most
likely resulting in Ad space not being as valuable.

I'd be curious to see the numbers on this, current # of subscriptions
and # of subscriptions in one year...then see what the Ads look like.

On 6/15/06, Christopher M. Heffner <cheffner@certified-labs.com> wrote:

        The interesting issue will be if the advertisers who have really
paid
        for Packet magazine all these years decide to stop advertising
in Packet
        magazine since there will be fewer and fewer hardcopies of the
actual
        magazine.

        I know that if I was an advertiser that I would be upset with
the decide
        to start charging Cisco customers for the printed version when
it is
        really the advertisers that Cisco makes their money from when it
comes
        to Packet magazine.

        Of course we were all promised last year at Networkers 2005 that
Packet
        magazine would be continued to be free for those of us that did
not want
        the digital copy but the hardcopy instead.

        I wonder if I can ask for a magic button for the digital version
of
        Packet magazine that would print out the magazine on my color
duplex
        laser printer WITHOUT all the advertiser's ads since it is now
my dime.

        Cisco are you listening ....

        Christopher M. Heffner, CCIE 8211, CCSI 98760
        Strategic Network Solutions, Inc.
        Certified Cisco Systems Instructor

        www.certified-labs.com

        -----Original Message-----
        From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of
        Mark Lasarko
        Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 7:46 AM
        To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
        Subject: RE: Cisco Charging for Packet now?

        Hey y'all, It is a little more than two or three $'s (USD) per
issue...

        PRINT Edition Pricing:

        ONE-YEAR SUBSCRIPTION (4 issues) for just $29.95 ($36.50
International,
        US Dollars) - 15% off cover price.

        TWO-YEAR SUBSCRIPTION (8 issues) for just $53.70 ($65.70
International,
        US Dollars) - 25% off cover price

        THREE-YEAR SUBSCRIPTION (12 issues) for just $75.18
        ($91.98 International, US Dollars) - 30% off cover price.
        *Single issue cover price: $8.95 U.S./$10.95
        Internationalhttps://www.cambeywest.com/pkt/pktpaids.asp

        1yr ~ $7.49/issue USD ($9.13 International) 2yr ~ $6.71/issue
USD ($8.21
        International) 3yr ~ $6.27/issue USD ($7.67 International)

        WTF?

        Hopefully they will still offer a free one @ Networkers' next
week?
        (Probably the same last free copy we just got in the mail
recently)

        That's a shame - lot's of good info over the years :(

        Complaint Department:
        packet-editor@cisco.com
        ~M

>>> "Victor Cappuccio" <cvictor@protokolgroup.com> 06/14/06 7:18
PM >>>

        Maybe...
        Especially for people outside the US, and with Dolar Currency
        restrictions

        -----Mensaje original-----
        De: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] En
nombre de
        Plank, Jason Enviado el: Miircoles, 14 de Junio de 2006 06:56
p.m.
        Para: Joe Rinehart; 'Scott Thornton'; 'Cisco certification'
        Asunto: RE: Cisco Charging for Packet now?

        Isn't it like 2 or 3 dollars an issue now too?

        -------------------
        J. Marshall Plank
        Network Engineer
        101 Bellevue Parkway
        Wilmington, DE 19809
        E-mail: JPlank@concordefs.com
        Phone: 302-793-5913

        -----Original Message-----
        From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
Behalf Of
        Joe Rinehart
        Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:44 PM
        To: 'Scott Thornton'; 'Cisco certification'
        Subject: RE: Cisco Charging for Packet now?

        Yes found that out recently as well...

        -----Original Message-----
        From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto: nobody@groupstudy.com
<mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] On Behalf Of
        Scott Thornton
        Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 12:19 PM
        To: Cisco certification
        Subject: Cisco Charging for Packet now?

        Did anyone see this? Packet is no longer free for the printed
        edition...it now costs money.

        I received my renewal notice today and it is no longer free, I
checked
        their web site to verify.

        Interesting...

        --
        Scott C Thornton

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