From: Kay D (krsna83@gmail.com)
Date: Tue May 30 2006 - 14:38:04 ART
Hi Pal,
First of all many Congrats , I took up my lab on
the 25th of March did not get through . Just wondering
how they are summing upto 800 ,are they using the
individual subject 's marks(for eg :IGP - 90,EGP -
85)to summ up or its done in a different way .
How are the points for each question getting equated
to marks ? Just curious abt it , thinking it as not a
part of NDA violation .
Thanks ,
Kay D
On 5/30/06, Jai Prakash <jpjsr06@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Pal,
>
> Congrats , Dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> The way of explanation about your preparation,is really appreciable.You have
> given some tips toward CCIE preparation. i.e really good for all aspering
> condidate.
>
> Now, you have good personal and socail life as well as sweet dream.
>
> Take care and Best Regards,
> Jai
>
>
>
> On 5/30/06, Pal <palsehmi@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just got the results from my lab in Brussels yesterday and I am happy to
> > say
> > that I passed.
> > I'm not sure that I am qualified to do so but I would like to share some
> > of
> > my thoughts in the hope that it will help someone.
> >
> > 1) The CCIE lab is very much achievable. Rather than concentrating on
> > questions it is better to learn and understand technologies. It is
> > possible
> > to do this through practice labs but quality of study is paramount - not
> > quantity!
> >
> > 2) The resources available are excellent. I used Internetwork Expert and
> > was
> > very pleased with the way in which the workbooks highlighted areas to
> > focus
> > on. No workbooks are perfect but its important not to miss the point -
> > they
> > are there to help you learn. Equally some of my study partners have
> > commented on other vendors and how good they are. Bottom line is - its up
> > to
> > you, no one will spoon feed the technology into your head - you have to
> > put
> > the hours of quality study in.
> >
> > 3) Groupstudy was informative and inspiring but some postings could be
> > easily avoided by simply reading a book or checking on CCO. We all have to
> > start somewhere but its a big responsibility to guide someone and I feel
> > one
> > should be very careful. Amongst others I would like to thank Brian, Scott
> > M,
> > Petr, Dave S, Victor and Godswill - your postings have been very useful.
> >
> > 4) I was greatly inspired by the stories of failure and success on GS. I
> > admire the tenacity of some individuals. Some of the people who failed
> > have
> > been my greatest inspiration. It takes real guts to keep going, which is
> > admirable. Saying that - if you fail it also takes real bravery to analyse
> > within and re-create a gameplan. Its easier to blame someone or something
> > else instead of your lack of study or lab technique.
> >
> > 5) I tried the lab 5 years ago after studying one textbook and a handful
> > of
> > poorly written self created labs. I came close on my first attempt and
> > thinking that I wasn't far I tried a few weeks later. I failed miserably
> > and
> > hung up my gloves for a while. The recent upturn in the industry and the
> > inspiration that I received from my friends gave me belief and allowed me
> > to
> > create a new gameplan and have another go.
> >
> > 6) I found it best to ignore all the "shortcut/cheat sheet" type
> > materials.
> > Its better to know your stuff and this needs detailed analysis. Use good
> > materials and text books, create your own set of notes and keep these
> > updated. Study in a group.
> >
> > 7) As far as lab technique is concerned I rehearsed the same approach
> > several times before the real thing.
> > a) Create 2 diagrams (BGP and IGP) and a vlan table.
> > b) Read all the questions, jot the answers down and also make notes on the
> > diagrams - take time to do this - maybe 30-45 minutes at the start.
> > ASK YOURSELF "HAVE I FULFILLED THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS QUESTION?"
> > c) Start work, verify everything all the way through. If you get stuck for
> > more than 10 minutes move on and return later.
> > d) Save often, I used a technique that I would not minimize my terminal
> > window unless I had saved.
> > e) Try to get into or complete BGP by lunch and then run TCL scripts.
> > f) Re-verify everything at the end.
> > Most of this might appear as common sense. General approach is to ask the
> > proctor whenever you are unsure. Never assume anything and use the CD if
> > you
> > need to at will.
> > Its a test and if you remove the pressure its much easier - so stay calm,
> > but focused.
> >
> > 8) When studying learn and drill the basics, tricks and corner cases are
> > good to know but these should follow the fundamentals. Know the basics
> > inside out.
> > Use the CD to cover all options and know where to find stuff on the CD. I
> > made a list something like this:
> > Configuration Fundamentals - Autoinstall, Menus & Banners, Config & IOS
> > management
> > Dial - Backup, Media Independent PPP compression, dhcp, pap&chap
> > Addressing Services - DHCP, DNS, NAT
> > Application Services - ICMP, DRP WCCP, Accounting, ACLs (time, options,
> > flags), TCP features, SLB, FHRP & Object Tracking
> > Network Management - Logging & SNMP, CDP, Small Services, NTP/Time, RMON,
> > Security - AAA, Radius, PAM, Reflexive, Lock & Key, Intercept, Secure
> > Infrastructure (Privilege)
> > WAN Configuration - Frame, PPPoFR, FREEK
> >
> > 9) More preparation - from beginning to end I took 3 months to study and
> > pass. I had a plan for what to do in case of failure as well as success.
> > I used a wallchart with the areas of study and the milestones. Its
> > important
> > to study the areas you are least comfortable with and make these strong.
> > The final 3 weeks I had the flu so I hadn't done any full labs for a
> > while,
> > this bothered me a little but was soon forgotten when I got into the
> > questions.
> > It's harder with a young family - I involved them in the process and that
> > helped a lot.
> >
> > Lastly I want to thank the powers that be, my family, my essential study
> > circle pals (Neil Dearman, Chamandeep Singh Gill and Mike Harries - THANKS
> > GUYS!!) and all my other friends who've supported me. I also want to
> > extend
> > a special thanks to Brian Dennis of IE and Paul Borghese for GS.
> >
> > I realise I have more to learn now than when I started studying. If I can
> > pass you certainly can too.
> > I wish everyone on this group the very best in their study, career and
> > personal lives.
> >
> > Pritpal Singh Sehmi (Pal)
> > CCIE #16300
> >
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