From: darbyweaver@yahoo.com
Date: Sat May 20 2006 - 04:04:34 ART
Since I have yet to take the lab, I cannot say that
with 100% certainty.
However, by reading some of the questions asked,
comparing them to the various lab workbooks (I've had
some subscriptions for years now) and noting that the
questions asked are sometimes similar but perhaps with
a bit of a twist here and there, I would be tempted to
say - I think so.
Especially when you notice that the guys who tend to
ask those "twisty" questions had either just been to a
lab or when they eventually pass they tend to mention
certain things (either how many times and when, etc.).
Do some research and check it out.
I noticed the pattern as I was trying to figure out
how many ways something could be done for certain
topics I am/was struggling with.
A interesting theory, but disturbing when I saw one
guy who once called me about a job at Cisco (and
happens to be a Cisco Press author as well), asking
these kinds of questions this past year. My jaw
nearly hit the floor.
It sucks to want something so bad, that you defeat the
purpose of attaing it in the first place.
I like to think that the CCIE is a journey towards
perfecting one's knowledge, but never really attaining
it 100%, since there is always something new...
Just me...
Others may have different aspirations.
I take my first attempt in about 3 weeks from now
(more or less) and if I do not pass on the first try,
it will not kill me, my income is aleady in the 90+
range, I live in a comfortable house that has gained a
lot of equity over the past two years, I have two
late-model vehicles that are in great shape, and I
work at a job that I have nearly total autonomy and am
looked to as the top techie on premise and am often
consulted by both GE and NBC, parent companies. I am
not complaining.
I actually enjoy the quest for knowledge and I'd do
and am doing it even though there may not be an
immediate gain once I attain my digits. I do seek the
self-satisfaction that getting it any other way than
by trial and error, reading, and "blood, sweat, and
tears", are actually needed to make it more valuable to
me.
I'm an MCSE (plus a few letters) and an MCT and they
have value for me, since I earned them. It once broke
my heart to see an MCSE say to me once that he was an
MCSE and looked down in shame... This was the worst
thing about the quick and dirty certification game I'd
ever seen.
I have met many CCIE's (sad to say) who can fit nearly
in the same category. I've only known a handful of
Quality CCIE's perhaps a score or so. Sad.
I also worked with a CCNP once, who did not feel he
had earned the title and admitted it was only a piece
of paper to him... Sad part is he had no reason to
cut short the process.
It is now nearly 4 years later and he is doing a lot
of VoIP work and the contractors are no longer needed,
he is a CCNP and if anything probably a strong CCVP at
heart if not on paper yet.
My compliments to Johnny, he has earned it... Lots of sweat and lots of work and he has always come through... So if you ever here some ask Who's HSU, you'll get the idea... :)
See my point?
Devaluation of the CCIE Credential does not come from having too many in terms of number of individuals certified, it happens when those numbers are watered down by people who cannot do the job, who have not taken the time to understand the essentials of what is required to be a true "Quality Network Professional" and this my friends is what the CCIE means to most of us here.
BTW - The CCIE Author who may or may not have challenged his integrity may or may not read this... But I would guess you know who you are...
There are others...
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