From: PhiL (theccie@gmail.com)
Date: Thu May 04 2006 - 11:07:33 ART
I love these posts and the people complaining about them. Just don't
read the messages and delete them instead of spamming even more.
Thanks,
PhiL
On 5/3/06, Razl Angel Velazquez Rodriguez <RVELAZQR@migesa.com.mx> wrote:
>
> Raul Angel Velazquez Rodriguez
> Microsoft Notepad Specialist, CCIE #16048
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Faryar Zabihi (fzabihi)
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:36 AM
> To: darbyweaver@yahoo.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Argument over Logos and Usage
>
> LOL. Who cares?
>
>
> Faryar
> CCNA,CCNP,CCDA,CCDP,CCIE(written),McDonald's JR. Champion
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> darbyweaver@yahoo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 7:07 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Argument over Logos and Usage
>
> Yes,
>
> Some folks are wrong for putting all of their earned logos in their
> signature block.
>
> Yes, some folks seem to be genuinely confused between if Career
> Certifications and the CCIE Certifiation are on the same track...
>
> No, We did not come here to listen to one person berate and correct
> another person on the usage of their Logos.
>
> Personally, unless you are in charge of the program or have the ability to
> manifest a formal reprisal to the person or persons in question, what is
the
> point...
>
> Do you need to feel like a parent of other people?
>
> Hmmm...
>
> I think everyone who is in question should consult the Logo usage
> guidelines.
>
> 1. The Career Certifications are a different family of Certifications than
> the CCIE Certifications. Therefore if you are a CCNP, CCSP, CCIP, CQS,
etc.
> you can probably feel listing them alongside your CCIE.
>
> 2. Career Certifications that are of a higher tier do not and are
> recommended by Cisco to not be listed along side the pre-requisite
> certification.
>
> Example: a CCNP (who has a CCNA) would only use the following for a
> signature block:
>
> Darby Weaver
> CCNP
>
> not
>
> Darby Weaver
> CCNP CCNA
>
> However, a CCNP with a CCDA would use the following:
>
> Darby Weaver
> CCNP CCDA
>
> etc.
>
>
> Now if one were a CCIE then it might look like the follwoing:
>
> Darby Weaver
> CCIE #xxxxx CCNP CCSP CCDP CCIP IPCC UCSE
>
>
> If I am incorrect, please let me know...
>
> However, I did consult both references earlier last week on this same
> question and the CCIE Logo Usage Guidelines make no references to the
Career
> Certifications.
>
> Further, while the Career Certifications explicitly list the desgnated
> certifications, they did not list the CCIE.
>
> Another tidbit, is that Cisco "Recommends" not using a CCNP with a lower
> order cert like say the CCNA, it does not necessarily enforce this rule.
>
> However, the CCIE program does have a formal system for reporting
> violations of their Logo Usage Guidelines.
>
> This is what I took from the logo guidelines, if I am mistaken, please
> cite your example.
>
> I used the Career Certification Logo Guidelines from
> cisco.com/go/certifications and the CCIE Logo Guidelines from
> cisco.com/go/ccie
>
> I can dig up the exact references if needed.
>
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-- Regards,PhiL
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