RE: One of those wrong days

From: csica (csica@mail.liweb.net)
Date: Fri Apr 21 2006 - 23:35:17 GMT-3


Cisco does have "rollback" and "commit" commands but as far as I know they are only available in IOX. I have heard rumors that IOX will be moving down to some of the smaller platforms in the future, but nothing official as of yet. I hope they do, it has some really cool features.

And Scott, I agree with you. Healthy competition is great. Both vendors do some really cool stuff and as the competition heats up, it only gets better.

Regards,
Christian

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
Reply-To: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 08:08:54 -0400

>There are some new features in the 12.4 set for "archive" that are working
>along those lines of configuration maintenance. Otherwise, there are many
>third-party programs (Kiwi, Solarwinds, Rancid, etc.) for config
>maintenance.
>
>Rollback is a WAY cool feature though, and it's been around since the dawn
>of JUNOS. (Does that mean Cisco "stole" it from Juniper?)
>
>As for the "who stole what" ideas... Isn't that the concept of competition
>anyway? Once one has a cool idea, if enough people like it, soon everyone
>has something similar. :) Your PIX virtual firewalls came because of
>Netscreen (now Juniper). I don't view this as a bad thing at all.
>
>Both Cisco and Juniper have their places within networks. Both have
>benefits and both have problems. Both can be defended in different
>circumstances, but it's always good to know the options available to you!
>
>
>Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
>#153, CISSP, et al.
>CCSI/JNCI
>IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
>IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
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>http://www.ipexpert.com
>
>PS. I defend both platforms in different circumstances. ;)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>Victor Cappuccio
>Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:32 PM
>To: Brian Dennis
>Cc: csica; CCIE LAB; Jeffrey Fry
>Subject: Re: One of those wrong days
>
> Brian, is there any command similar to the Juniper to rollback a
>configuration? (did I say that I do not know anything about juniper) It
>would be nice to have something like this when doing Maintenance Windows.
>
>:)
>
>Brian Dennis escribis:
>
> Juniper was founded in 1996 and the "reload" command with the "in"
> option first appeared in IOS version 10.3. Since IOS version 10.3 was
> released in 1995 it appears you have it backwards ;-)
>
> If you ever want to discuss Cisco vs Juniper be sure to check out our
> IRC chat server. I'm regularly in there defending all things Cisco
> related ;-)
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/chat/
> HTH,
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [ mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com ] On
>Behalf Of
> csica
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 7:23 PM
> To: CCIE LAB; Jeffrey Fry
> Subject: RE: One of those wrong days
>
> Yup....just another feature Cisco stole from Juniper.
>
> (oops...did I say that out loud???) :D
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Jeffrey Fry" <Jeff@FryGuy.Net> Reply-To: "Jeffrey Fry"
><Jeff@FryGuy.Net> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 21:51:08 -0400
>
> Been there before, just glad the reload in command works :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [ mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com
>] On Behalf Of
> Nick Griffin
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:41 PM
> To: m destienne
> Cc: CCIE LAB
> Subject: Re: One of those wrong days
>
> I could see the humor in it.
>
> m destienne wrote:
>
> i don't think victor is having an issue. he locked himself from his
> router but he was smart enough to issue the reload command before
> issuing the aaa commands.
>
> he's providing a real life example of the usefulness of the reload
> command.
>
> --- john matijevic <john.matijevic@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Victor,
> I am sorry I don't understand your question. So what is the issue
>
> you
>
> are having?
>
> Sincerely,
> John
>
> On 4/18/06, Victor Cappuccio <cvictor@protokolgroup.com>
>wrote:
>
> just happy sharing a moment with friends
>
> cha-gw-01(config)#aaa new-model
> cha-gw-01(config)#aaa authentication login default
>
> group tacacs+ local
>
> cha-gw-01(config)#aaa authorization
>
> config-commands
>
> cha-gw-01(config)#aaa authorization exec default
>
> group tacacs+ local
>
> cha-gw-01(config)#aaa authorization commands 15
>
> default group tacacs+
>
> cha-gw-01(config)#aaa accounting exec default
>
> start-stop group tacacs+
>
> % Authorization failed.
>
> cha-gw-01(config)#aaa accounting commands 15
>
> default start-stop group
>
> tacacs+
> % Authorization failed.
>
> cha-gw-01#conf te
> % Authorization failed.
>
> cha-gw-01#show reload
> Reload scheduled in 6 minutes by console
>
> ***
> *** --- SHUTDOWN in 0:05:00 ---
> ***
> Boleita-Sw#show reload
> Reload scheduled in 2 minutes and 34 seconds by
>
> console
>
> Good Lord, how long are 2 min and 34 sec when you
>
> incorrecly configure
>
> AAA in a production environment, hope no to have
>
> more fun when when sw
>
> reloads it self without notification..
> ;)
>
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