Re: SPT between CISCO and FOUNDRY

From: Venkatesh Palani (kvpalani@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Mar 23 2006 - 20:54:30 GMT-3


Hi All,
Thanks for the inputs, actually I do find there is an option for PVST-mode (
it says PVST+ on its output)in the foundry under spanning tree configuration
and that is whay I opted for it. I am still doing my research about how I
coudl make these two boxes live happily together and also do what I want
them to do :-) OI think this shouldnt be a big job.

Device#sh <telnet@core1.eqx-nrt#sh> span
  DECIMAL Number of spanning tree entries to skip before display begins
  detail Show more details of STP information on each port
  *pvst-mode PVST status
* vlan Show spanning tree of a VLAN
  | Output modifiers

Thank you,
Venkatesh

On 3/24/06, Aaron T. Woland <aaron.woland@ins.com> wrote:
>
> Foundry does not support MST/MIST (same thing, different acronym) until
> their next release of code.
>
> Both Cisco and Foundry understand rapid spanning tree (802.1w) and will
> use
> pvst for 802.1w...
>
> I have a mixture of Foundry & Cisco gear @ quite a few customer locations.
>
> -Aaron
>
> Aaron T. Woland | Consultant | INS | Email: aaron.woland@ins.com |
> Website: www.ins.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Godswill Oletu
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:07 AM
> To: Godswill Oletu; Venkatesh Palani; Henk de Tombe
> Cc: CCIE LAB
> Subject: Re: SPT between CISCO and FOUNDRY
>
> Ven,
>
> These might help, also some typos on the first list, Venkatesh started the
> typo by using SPT instead of STP, however I believe that no one was
> confused.
>
> PVST uses ISL and Foundary will use dot1q.
> PVST+ uses dot1q but it is Cisco proprietary
> MIST might be the way out.
>
> Put a spot light on this and your research will point you the way to go.
>
> I got these from another forum:
>
> ****
> Here is the list of STP family protocols supported by cisco switches:
>
> Spanning Tree Protocol (STP) / 802.1D
> Common Spanning Tree (CST or CSTP) * Actually STP and CST is the same.
> Rapid STP (RSTP) / 802.1w
> Multiple Instance STP (MISTP or MSTP) / 802.1s
> Per VLAN Spanning Tree (PVST) * Cisco Proprietary
> Per VLAN Spanning Tree Plus (PVST+) * Cisco Proprietary
>
> Here is a list of STP family protocols supported by HP 9304M (actually
> Foundry)
>
> Common Spanning Tree (CST or CSTP)
> Rapid STP (RSTP) / 802.1w
> Multiple Instance STP (MISTP or MSTP) / 802.1s * In the roadmap, next
> release
> Per VLAN Spanning Tree (PVST) * Cisco Proprietary, via patent
> Per VLAN Group STP PVGST * Foundry Proprietary (based on IEEE 802.1s)
> SuperSpan * Foundry Proprietary
> Metro Ring Protocol MRP * Foundry Proprietary
> *****
>
> Visit that thread @
>
>
http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=1000349
>
> HTH
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Godswill Oletu" <oletu@inbox.lv>
> To: "Venkatesh Palani" <kvpalani@gmail.com>; "Henk de Tombe"
> <henk.de.tombe@qi.nl>
> Cc: "CCIE LAB" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:39 AM
> Subject: Re: SPT between CISCO and FOUNDRY
>
>
> > I thought PVST is the CISCO way of doing thing (SPT), since you want to
> > connect to a third party switch, why not look into the industrial
> standard
> > method of implementing SPT ie MST or MIST (depending on which text you
> are
> > reading).
> >
> > All VLANs can just be a member of one instance.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Venkatesh Palani" <kvpalani@gmail.com>
> > To: "Henk de Tombe" <henk.de.tombe@qi.nl>
> > Cc: "CCIE LAB" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: SPT between CISCO and FOUNDRY
> >
> >
> > > Hi Henk,
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot for your reply, it surely helps me a lot, I am planning
> to
> do
> > > PVST as I want to split traffic between two MAN connections.
> > > Thank you,
> > > venkatesh
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/23/06, Henk de Tombe <henk.de.tombe@qi.nl> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Venkatesh,
> > > >
> > > > Do you mean 802.1D With STP? It will work just fine, the only thing
> you
> > > > have
> > > > to take care of is the native VLAN behaviour of both devices.
> > > >
> > > > Foundry tags all VLANS, cisco switch can be configured to tag (vlan
> > dot1q
> > > > tag native) native vlan or not. So the native VLAN on the cisco
> doesn't
> > > > make
> > > > it throughout the foundry network. You can either tag the native
> vlan
> on
> > > > the
> > > > cisco, OR.....
> > > >
> > > > You can enable dual-mode port config on the foundry's interface to
> the
> > > > cisco, see example below
> > > >
> > > > Vlan 10
> > > > Tag eth 1
> > > > !
> > > > Vlan 11
> > > > Tag eth 1
> > > > !
> > > > Int e 1
> > > > Dual-mode 10
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > With this configuration you tell the foundry to accept tagged and
> > untagged
> > > > ports on ethernet 1.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One option regarding STP you have to look out for is the command
> > > > "pvst-mode"
> > > > under the interface:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
http://www.foundrynet.com/services/documentation/srcli/Interface_cmds.html#w
> > > > p126004
> > > >
> > > > Per default the foundry reverts to cisco PVST BPDU when it receives
> one.
> > > > If
> > > > you already know that PVST will be "offered" to the foundry just
> > hard-code
> > > > it in, you never know!
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Henk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Met vriendelijke groet,
> > > >
> > > > Q&I
> > > >
> > > > Henk de Tombe
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> > 2006
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] Namens
> > Venkatesh
> > > > Palani
> > > > Verzonden: donderdag 23 maart 2006 10:45
> > > > Aan: CCIE LAB
> > > > Onderwerp: OT: SPT between CISCO and FOUNDRY
> > > >
> > > > Hi Guys,
> > > >
> > > > I wonder if you guys have come across any starnge behavior/issues
> when
> > > > running SPT between Cisco and Foundry devices. I am about to deploy
> few
> > > > cisco 6500 switches into a pure foundry network that runs STP and so
> > > > trying
> > > > to get prepared for any unexpected surprises :-).
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > > Venkatesh
> > > >
> > > >
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