From: Joshua Lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Mar 12 2006 - 21:13:03 GMT-3
I heard that rumour as well,
they just gave you a pile of documentation as a
reference, how many people actually used it is
beyond me...I would think that due to time
constraints you wouldnt have much time to thumb
through a book to find something.
I think the doc cd is ok for those occasional "brain
fart" moments in the heat of battle, but you should
already have something to go on to guide you to the
correct documentation. If you dont, you just plain
dont know it..
jl
Joshua Lauer
CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, CCSP, CCIP, RHCE, INFOSEC,
CISSP, CEH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Lasarko" <mlasarko@co.ba.md.us>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; <jslauer@hotmail.com>;
<lanny26ga@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: change in the CCIE lab exam
environment... search is gone----that is not right.
> My $.02 - This should have always been the policy.
>
> The search engine, though useful at times, also
> gave a false sense of security to many - I know
> I personally though it would "get me by". After my
> NP/DP and a few years of support using the search
> engine, which *usually* guided me to a solution I
> thought...
>
> I am glad they have "officially" removed it.
>
> At the end of the day (depending on your timezome)
> Know the material or know where to find it.
>
> I heard back in the day, before my first attempt,
> before I knew GS existed, I had heard that there
> were actual books in the lab - My first attempt I
> looked over on the shelf and sure enough there
> were "some books". I asked the proctor if they
> were available for our use during the lab; He just
> smiled and said;
>
> "Yes, but if you haven't read THOSE books yet you
> might want to turn around and leave now."
>
> I smiled and replied - "Thanx, now I won't feel so
> bad when I fail!".
> And I did :)
> ~M
>
>
>>>> "Joshua Lauer" <jslauer@hotmail.com> 03/12/06
>>>> 5:28 PM >>>
> I totally agree with you,
>
> I never use the search function, I think it slows
> you down actually. There is no faster way to find
> the info than just knowing where it's at.
>
> I printed out the entire doc cd (12.2, 12.3 and
> 12.4) and arranged it into 3 ring binders. Then I
> went through each and every page...tedius, but I
> found it's really the best way to learn.
>
> jl
> Joshua Lauer
> CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, CCSP, CCIP, RHCE, INFOSEC,
> CISSP, CEH
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lanny Ballard" <lanny26ga@hotmail.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: change in the CCIE lab exam
> environment... search is gone----that is not
> right.
>
>
>> I, for one, personally think this is a good
>> policy. One of the biggest mistakes I see, is
>> candidates not knowing the documentation cd
>> backwards and forwards because they think they
>> will be able to search out the answer. My advice
>> to anyone taking the lab exam is to know the
>> documentation cd thoroughly. I personally went
>> over it 3 full times (the configuration guides),
>> and I believe this is one of the primary reasons
>> I
>> finally passed. I know it takes away an option,
>> but in this case it is an option that may lure
>> unthinking candidates into a false sense of
>> security
>>
>> My $.02
>>
>> Lanny
>>
>>
>>>From: "Joshua Lauer" <jslauer@hotmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: "Joshua Lauer" <jslauer@hotmail.com>
>>>To: "I will Be a CCIE" <1willbeaccie@gmail.com>,
>>><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>>Subject: Re: change in the CCIE lab exam
>>>environment... search is gone----that is not
>>>right.
>>>Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:07:10 -0500
>>>
>>>It's not all that horrible,
>>>
>>>just takes away one of the options you have. The
>>>other option you have is to learn the
>>>documentation. If you follow the blueprint in
>>>your
>>>studies you'll find you have little need for the
>>>search engine and it's really not a big deal. The
>>>test is about knowing the options, they just took
>>>away one is all.
>>>
>>>JL
>>>
>>>
>>>Joshua Lauer
>>>CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP, CCSP, CCIP, RHCE,
>>>INFOSEC,
>>>CISSP, CEH
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "I will Be a
>>>CCIE" <1willbeaccie@gmail.com>
>>>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>>Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:00 AM
>>>Subject: change in the CCIE lab exam
>>>environment... search is gone----that is not
>>>right.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I think this is BS!!!!! I am not happy about
>>>>this.
>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dear CCIE Candidate,
>>>>
>>>>We want to make you aware of a change in the
>>>>CCIE
>>>>lab exam environment.
>>>>While access to Cisco product documentation will
>>>>still be available during
>>>>the lab exam at the Documentation Website
>>>>(UniversCD) at
>>>>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/home/home.htm,
>>>>candidates will no longer be
>>>>able to use the search function on that site.
>>>>The search has been disabled
>>>>due to a change in the way product documentation
>>>>is maintained at Cisco.
>>>>Instead, candidates should be prepared to use
>>>>the
>>>>drop-down index to
>>>>navigate the Documentation Website (UniversCD).
>>>>
>>>>You may want to spend more time becoming
>>>>familiar
>>>>with the index and
>>>>practicing how to quickly locate relevant
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>>>>time to practice using the
>>>>documentation, please remember our cancellation
>>>>policy: Changes to CCIE lab
>>>>exam dates or locations must be made at least 28
>>>>days before your scheduled
>>>>date, to let us schedule other candidates for
>>>>that seat. The last day to
>>>>make a change is called your lab exam due date
>>>>and it can be found by
>>>>logging into the CCIE database at
>>>>https://tools.cisco.com/CCIE/Schedule_Lab/CCIEOnline/CCIEOnline
>>>>and checking
>>>>your Certification Status. There you can also
>>>>easily reschedule your exam
>>>>online.
>>>>
>>>>Please remember that no changes are allowed
>>>>after
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>>>>you do not show up on the day of your exam you
>>>>will not be eligible for a
>>>>refund.
>>>>
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