Re: Proctors in Bangalore-India

From: Rodrigo Paes (rpaes@pobox.com)
Date: Wed Mar 01 2006 - 21:15:45 GMT-3


Hi...

        Have u written a formal complain to the ccie@cisco.com ?

        As I understand, the Proctor is there to help you out with the
understanding of the exam... to answer questions like "what do you
expect the output of this command will be ?" or "I'm not sure if I can
use this or that method, and if it doesn't conflict with the item
restrictions..." or in the case of us non-english speaking folks "what
does this word mean ?" :))

        I'm pretty sure that if the proctor was anything but professional, CCIE
program managers will to handle the issue.

        Now... I'm sorry about everything, I've failed the exam more times than
I'd like, but I don't think there is any kind of policy from cisco
putting a cap on the number of CCIEs passing the exam in India, or
China... or wherever. Specially givend the amount of money they are
putting in your neck of the woods ;)

        But I _do_ think that cisco is starting to act upon the "CCIE TK" ..
and I'm ALL FOR IT !!!

well... my $0.02

[]'s
Rodrigo

On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 21:47 +0000, CCIE tobe wrote:
> Frustrating is an understatement...The proctoring in the Bangalore Lab is
> the height of unprofessionalism...
> First of all the sits in the lab and
> attends phone calls on his mobile phone...and keeps talking...its so
> disturbing...when one of us told him ...he went outside...Its really appaling
> how a CCIE moreso a PROCTOR can be so inconsiderate and ignorant...
>
> He is
> absolutely of no assistance...Once when someone had asked him a simple
> question like "I just wanted to confirm the question with you if we have to
> use X or Y"...the answer he gave was.."Read the question carefully and do not
> try to read between the lines and intstead focus on the wordings
> carefully"..as though if CCIE lab exam a test of English language not
> Technology expertise..If he himself doesnt understand the question...he should
> have said he doesnt understand...If this is the aptitude level of Proctors
> assigned for proctoring a CCIE lab exam...I think Cisco should seriously
> consider conducting a exam to ascertain the credibility of proctors..they send
> out a very wrong impression about Cisco to Networking Community...
>
> Far from
> being helpful...you get an impression that he is not too happy to see you pass
> and just doesnt want to help you...maybe he genuinely doesnt know ...He is
> only too happy bragging about his achievements during the lunch break...that
> he is a CISSP,BS7799 certified and so on......I have lost faith in the
> Bangalore center...you get an impression that this guy will purposely fail
> you...even if it means screwing around with your script..JUST TO MAINTAIN A
> GOOD FAILURE RATIO.....
>
> I have reliable information that Cisco has recently
> started indulging in a very alarming,dangerous and highhanded trend of holding
> results of a candidates indefinitely....(Could be merely based on a complaint
> from Proctor)..... saying that they have evidence..WITHOUT ACTUALLY PRODUCING
> ANY EVIDENCE TO THE CANDIDATES.
>
> IF THEY HAVE EVIDENCE WHY DOESNT CISCO PROVE
> THEIR ALLEGATION....
> IS IT FAIR TO SUSPEND ANYONE'S RESULT JUST ON THE BASIS
> OF SUSPICION?....IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK OR EXPECT OF CISCO TO BE FAIR AND
> TRANSPERENT AND PROVE THAT THEY HAVE NOT TAKEN SUCH EXTEREME STEP JUST ON THE
> BASIS OF A COMPLAINT FROM THE PROCTOR...(HOW CAN THE PROCTOR COMPLAIN(IN CASE
> HE HAS....) WHEN THE CANDIDATE HAS NOT DONE ANY MALPRACTICE IN THE EXAM ??)
> WHY ARE THEY NOT COMING OUT TO PRESENT THE EVIDENCE...AND PROVE IT..OR .....IS
> IT LIKE
> "NO QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED COZ UD GET NO ANSWERS??"...
>
> LOOKS LIKE
> CISCO DOESN'T LIKE TOO MANY PEOPLE PASSING THEIR CCIE FROM THIS PART OF THE
> WORLD....
>
> REGARDS....
>
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