Re: Feedback on labs in Asia Pac

From: James Ventre (messageboard@ventrefamily.com)
Date: Tue Jan 31 2006 - 08:43:42 GMT-3


>Arun Arumuganainar wrote:

>You can have quick look at your notes when you go outside
>( referring to notes is not allowed in CCIE lab . In Beijing ,
>you can safely do it with out being caught by the proctor )

OK. I'll Bite.

While doing something ... if you find yourself worried about "being
caught" by a proctor that's a real good sign it'll either violate the NDA
and/or is CHEATING. Just because lunch isn't served in-house doesn't
make it right.

James

Arun Arumuganainar wrote:

  I recently took a lab in Beijing !!! Experiences was not so pleasant
  !!!Reasons being ...
  
  Reasons that are personal to me .
  
  1) I failed and obviously I will have bad memories !!!
  2) I was taken off-guard by the climate ... Even though I stayed close to
  CISCO I will have to resort to Taxi . Even the smaller time I spent outside
  the hotel/Cisco , I had frost bites on lips , Foot and Ears !!! I really
  struggled with climate ( Pls. Note : I come from Chennai ( South India )
  which has only 3 season a) Hot season b) Hotter season and c) Hottest
  season ) . If you are going to china go with warm clothes or pls. plan your
  trip on summer months .
  
  Other reasons :-
  
  1) Lunch will not be served in Beijing . In the half-n-hour break ...you
  will have go out find a hotel and have lunch and come back . This is near to
  impossible .On the lighter side ... You can have quick look at your notes
  when you go outside ( referring to notes is not allowed in CCIE lab . In
  Beijing , you can safely do it with out being caught by the proctor )
  2) DOC CD search is not allowed . So be sure how to browse through the doc
  CD before going to Beijing .
  3) Going to Rest rooms is very difficult in Beijing . You have walk a long
  distance with in Cisco building to reach it !!! While coming back you need
  to knock the door !!! And wait for some body to open the door for you !!!
  Moral of the story : Drink Less water while you take up exam in Beijing .
  4) Language is definitely a problem both within and outside Cisco for
  non-Chinese speaking people !!!
  
  FYI : Unlike japan Beijing provided PC with English edition of Window ...if
  you are coming from outside of china . Problems with adapting to new OS
  never arised for me !!!
  
  Thanks and Regards
  Arun
  
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "lim es" <tiga72@yahoo.com> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 7:56 AM
  Subject: Feedback on labs in Asia Pac

    Hi Group,
    
    I would like to find out if anyone has taken the lab
    in either:
    
    - Japan
    - Hong Kong
    - Beijing
    
    I am trying to decide from the above 3 choices and
    would definitely appreciate any form of opinion or
    feedback
    
    TIA
    
    Lim

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